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The ticket or the packaging?

And they accused Corbyn of trying to bribe people with more public spending.

it obvious what's happened here. When the DUP went in to meet the robot May, their first demand was an award for our Steven.

Exactly. If you look at what happened at Shirley Towers, the fire was contained in the flat where the fire started and a few neighbouring ones. They are designed to contain the fire until the fire service can deal with it. Even so, it was fierce enough for 2 firemen to lose their lives. The sheer speed of the spread of the fire on Wednesday night and the fact that it seemed to go up the outside of the building makes it likely that the cladding was one the main factors in this case.

There was a guy on Radio 4 this morning from a company that fits sprinkler systems worldwide. He said that the numbers being bandied about in the press are for the hardware only. When you look at retro fitting them, the cost is very much higher.

Nicely ironic article from the Daily Mash: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/nation-breathes-sigh-of-relief-as-it-is-spared-religious-dictatorship-under-tim-farron-20170615129650

If you join a club because of the benefits that it provides then you can't expect those benefits to continue if you leave, so you will probably be worse off. It's like leaving the Freemasons and still expecting to get your planning permission nodded through or being let off your speeding fines.

At least we haven't ended up with a government propped by with terrorist sympathizers. Oh, hang on a minute.......

Thatcher authorised back-door talks with the IRA in 1990 despite her supposedly hard-line stance. So was she undermining her own government?

If so it would be interesting to see what stance the Unionists would take over the border with the Republic. They'd have May over a barrel (if she was still PM). The Tories are never squeamish about ditching their leaders and, as their campaign was so focused on May, there could be trouble if she delivers a worse result than 2015.

Might not need troops on the streets if the Tories hadn't got rid of 20000 police officers.

So 4 days after publishing their manifesto where they rejected Andrew Dilnot's idea of a cap on social care costs, May has decided that there will be one. Bit embarrassing after her ministers spent the weekend saying that a cap wasn't feasible. is this strong and stable leadership?

I think that he's saying that when Gordon Brown proposed something similar, the Tories (and the Daily Mail) were screaming about a "Death Tax". Also, when Ed Milliband proposed a cap on energy prices the Tories said that he was "living in a Marxist universe". But when May suggests the same, she's "standing up for hard-working families".

Renewed today and my son will probably renew tomorrow. My justification is that next season can't be as dull as this one. Besides that, I enjoy having a laugh with the people around me. Dropped my car into the garage this morning and the owner, who goes with 4 mates, said that none of them are renewing so I imagine that take up will be slow, especially as there is no discount for early renewal.

Admit it, you've had a sneek preview of the Tory manifesto.

I was looking forward to him insulting Trump.

Did that come from the Tory Party manifesto?

Yeah, it''s obviously all staged and their "profits" take no account of Ed's labour but I found the mechanical aspects interesting and also being old enough to remember most of the "classic" cars when they they were first made.

The amount spent on benefits in 2014/15 was £3bn on unemployment (1% of welfare spending) but £44bn on in-work benefits not including housing. Perhaps you should be more worried that your taxes are being used to subsidise employers who won't pay a decent wage.

As old Rene Descartes said: "I think, therefore I am not a Daily Mail reader".

In later years he ran the pub at the Sports Centre.

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That's not a benefit because it hasn't happened yet. Also, if it does happen, what evidence is there linking it to Brexit. Just because they happen at the same time does not mean that one caused the other. You might just as well say that it was caused by Saints beating Palace last night.

Spain is a member of Nato and so any attack on them would be taken as an attack on all member nations. So we would have to attack ourselves to defend Spain who we were attacking. Does that make sense??