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Brilliant from Ings. Totally undeserved but who the hell cares. Let’s get another then please. And another.

Jesus we are clueless in every department

Bit concerned that we don’t look like wanting to match their desire to win the second ball. Unfortunately we don’t exactly ooze class when we do have it

Soccerlegacy isn't bad - no need to register. You just have to remember to scroll down to the second video on the page, not click the one at the top (and if that doesn't work, click the 'backup' button. I would avoid cricfree, tried it a couple of weeks ago after struggling to find any and immediately sent my PC into scary-pop-up overdrive. Will also check out the one from Convict Colony too.

The problem there is you've included the words "Alex Crook" and "facts" in the same sentence.

Seeing the highlights, don't think I was right to think it was Romeu who didn't track the run from Wilson. However, he is very slow to sense the danger of Bournemouth mounting an attack and is quickly caught ahead of the ball, which should rarely be the case. The main culprit though, which surprised me having only seen the move from a different angle previously, was Cedric. He isn't marking anyone, he can see Wilson is unmarked, and then even points at him. Just go and mark him yourself ffs. Another example of him wanting to play cautiously for too long. Fine not to vacate your left back spot further upfield when someone else can exploit it, but there comes a point that you have to bite the bullet and, you know, stop someone scoring.

Oh without doubt, but they were still able to do it. Bet we wouldn't fare so well...!

Strangely following a defeat, a lot of decent and insightful posts here, highlighting specifics rather than writing us off as being unlucky or terrible. Although I thought we looked a lot better in the second half (both better than our first half performance and better than Bournemouth), Bournemouth were a lot more effective at keeping us at arm's length. We always looked on the edge of creating something, but more often than not that ended up with a shot from distance, or a blocked shot. Whether or not they were prepared to let us have the ball 25 yards from goal is debatable, but they were certainly more organised when it came to preventing that final ball. That's what concerns me about our defence - too often there are scenarios where the opposition players just run and run without anyone getting near them and then they also have acres of space to pass into. Sometimes it is because we are hit on the counter attack, but not always. Is it because we push so many forward that we are left exposed? Find it hard to believe that's the case with three CBs. Theory on Romeu - and it is just a hypothesis, as I think he's great - is there a case that he tends to look good when the rest of the team are struggling, or when we are playing better teams, simply because he has more defensive work to do? A bit like how a goalkeeper in a poor side often looks good because he has lots of shots to save. I also think he tends to play better when he is a solitary DM rather than as one of two, perhaps because he is necessarily involved more. Don't get me wrong, if that is the case then that's still a good reason to play him, but I still worry about the two or three times he fails to track his runner from midfield in a match, which often proves costly.

Haven't seen enough replays to really identify, but is it another example of Romeu failing to track a run from deep? Going forward we actually don't look too bad, but we are just so bad and so open at the back. It's like the opposition don't even have to try to get a shot on goal, they just run into open space before eventually seeing the goal in front of them.

I agree with Sheaf Saint who in the build up said he found it puzzling that Yoshida is always the one to make way at centre back but prepared to give Hasenhuttl the benefit of the doubt. But that coupled with playing players out of position is very odd indeed.

Possibly the best outcome - not down another goal but hopefully a bl00dy wake up call! Other teams find it so easy to carve out chances against us.

Try clicking on the 'backup' button in red above the video not loading. I was having the same problem for ages and asked the guy in chat vs United and that worked (and also works for me today).

Excellent summary (although S-Clarke also has a point about Puel's time)

Come on... if you're going to argue it wasn't a penalty surely it's because JWP was unsighted or fouled and therefore unintentional handball (though I'm no longer clear on the rules, unintentional handball by a striker nullifies a goal, but for a defender doesn't mean penalty...?) Not sure how anyone can argue that it didn't stop the ball going to a Sheff Utd player a couple of yards from an open goal. Regardless of the height of the ball, that's a goalscoring opportunity.

When I watched some of the vlog I did actually wonder about how people behind felt being on camera for so long, because at Fulham the guy in front of me was filming the fans singing and I felt a bit self-concious that I was front of shot! And that was one incident for a spell of about 10 seconds, not the whole game. Owen, has anyone ever asked you not to film them? If it was me I would probably be too polite to say anything and then sit there feeling awkward and uncomfortable for the entire afternoon - probably a bit like the guy at Sheffield who cast a few disparaging looks the way of the camera It's not really my thing, so apart from feeling for the people inadvertently being filmed, what you do is up to you. I think you'd be better off talking about a goal (or major incident) after the celebrations though, when you can explain it a bit more calmly. Trying to explain the goal while jumping up and down feels like you're not really in the moment like everyone else, which given you're clearly a big fan obviously shouldn't be the case! Just celebrate normally and see what the camera picks up - a Saints goal to take the lead away from home is such a rare thing it seems a shame for you to not experience it to the fullest.

I, like you, should really just ignore it, but it is so frustrating that someone can be so obviously terrible at their job - a job most people would love and no doubt lots of alternatives are available - and yet they continue to get away with it!

Which are a joke to be honest. I don't play Fantasy Football anymore, but I could make a long list of things they get wrong. One is the calculation of bonus points. It's basically whoever scores, and (unless they have changed the method) it actually rewards strikers more for scoring. So if a striker scores a penalty he is nailed on to be one of the players of the game...

Yeah, aside from the fact it's not true, the thing that made me laugh was the idea that we "prided ourselves" on it, rather than simply being something we have (or haven't) benefitted from. I thought teams prided themselves on attacking football, a great youth academy, or oldest floodlights, but didn't realise it extended to "having good players"

"we always prided ourselves as having a proven goalscorer with 15+goals a season" Don't know where to start on this one.

People who drive down the unused or wrong lane in traffic and then force their way in at the end. If I was religious I could at least have the comfort of knowing there’s a special place in Hell for these people. You know that the people who drive like the rules don’t apply to them are like that in every day life too.

Yes but would the EU allow us back in in 10 years time? After 30 maybe, but I'd be surprised if they got the red carpet out for us to waltz back in.

I do think that's true actually. It's almost like the politicians were doing everything they could to keep the public onside without actually having to go through with the thing that would screw everything up...

Except he really isn't. It really shouldn't be hard to understand why people aren't just saying "ok let's see how it goes as we've voted for it". A general election is every 5 years. Donald Trump was only elected for 4 years. Brexit is forever. Once we're out, there's no chance of saying "oops, we won't make that mistake again!" It is quite remarkable that people either can't see the difference, and also why the argument of "we should at least implement the result first before making a judgment" simply doesn't make any sense (Matt Le Tissier I'm looking at you! Sigh...)

Quite - unfortunately it's very easy to print (or speak) a headline or snippet and make it seem outlandish - either in a way that plays to the already baying crowd or one that unsettles people who are well meaning but ultimately uninformed. It's not so easy to dissect a law and look at pros and cons in a short space of time and without boring people! (also maybe shurlock does work in that area, who knows, but seems a bit of a stretch to assume that just because someone is informed on something means that it's their job - maybe he's just read stuff about it, which we could all do!)

Thanks. Interesting about the first sentence, it would certainly tie up with what Wes said about having to endure the EU for 40 years. That doesn't sound like a good reason to me, since really we should be judging whether our EU membership is currently a good thing rather than whether it was what we signed up for initially (presumably lots of things evolve over time). A lot of the EU laws seem outrageous at first glance but on closer inspection or from a different angle make more sense. The classic is the 'bendy bananas', but also things like light bulb wattage and fishing quotas have their merits. It's also often the case that the UK supports the more controversial-sounding legislation! You're exactly right with your last sentence, and given the magnitude of the decision it's pretty obvious now that we either shouldn't have had a referendum or been a bit clearer as to what exactly we were voting on. Cameron took for granted that it wouldn't matter anyway and now look at us! Although I do understand the argument that we should honour the vote, ultimately I think it's more important to do what's best for the country. At the moment it might feel like there are winners and losers but if we make the wrong decision we all lose really (which I know is still open to debate, but it is increasingly looking like we're not going to get a better outcome from leaving).