LeBizzier69

Didn’t look a pen…..seemed to get a toe to the ball and man then fell over??

What a team of diving c*nts

Reset coming, clear out of players, excitement for the season ahead. Sounds a bit like when we last went down.....at least this season it was unavoidable due to lack of real quality where needed, unlike last time when we were mismanaged (in my opinion) into relegation. A decent manager incoming and all will be forgotten. We've been the laughing stock so many times over the last 30 years that i frankly couldn't care less about the "earliest relegation" tag. Bring on next season. It'll all be fine in the end.....or is this the beer talking.

One of the oddest things i've seen from a player in while......KWP busting a gut to get forward, and Dibling just walking 20 yards behind him....no support whatsoever. Bizarre.

Substitute appearances don’t get much more half-arsed than his last night. Shame.

Must admit to being some way past the point of caring when it happens.

And continue donating his salary to building the tunnels!

Oh good, all the news recently must be made up and the stance from 2 years ago is still in effect. All these posts for nothing. Cheers for clarifying.

I’m not upset about it, we all have opinions and isn’t that what this place is for? My opinion is simply that if they’re a designated terrorist organisation in the UK then the BBC should refer to them as such. Others feel differently. I think I’ll leave this here unless I have anything other to say about good old Rupert.

Hi there. No, I was asked if there were links to the beeb calling other terror groups terrorists…..by Weston Super Saint. So they’ve named those as terror groups (programme or not is really irrelevant if it’s the corporation stance) but not Hamas. Does that help?

Cheers my man, I’m off to the footy. I’ll let you wrestle with that conundrum.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000z95y https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/n3csvf6h Describing the 9/11 attacks as terrorist attacks. Isis as a terror group. Does that count?

No. Next?

“In which case, not just Hamas, but all other terrorist perpetrators should be exempt from being referred to as “terrorists” — including, rather remarkably, ISIS and Al-Qaeda. At least then the BBC would be able to claim consistency across the entire terrorist spectrum with a credible defence against the charge, implicit in the intervention by ministers, that the Corporation’s coverage of the conflict is not duly impartial. Alternatively, align the reporting of Hamas with how the BBC has reported other terrorist organisations and events. Consistency matters. As it stands, the BBC’s defence of due impartiality in this instance is sufficiently flawed as to be unconvincing.” Bias shown?? From earlier article linked above. Being impartial should be a given….. unless the said organisation is a proscribed terrorist group by our own government.

I’ll take that as a compliment thanks. Maybe the BBC can take your lead and call Hamas a “niche terrorist organisation”.

Can you clarify what question you want answered? Such aggression for a Friday…at least save it for 4.53pm ish tomorrow I said in an earlier post that if you want balanced news you need other news outlets. They are all skewed of course, but the point is you read/watch/listen to them all and form your own opinions. At no point have I said there’s a more balanced option. In my opinion, if our government says Hamas is a terrorist group then so should the state broadcaster. I don’t think it’s a particularly controversial take on things.

It’s in the article yes. By definition possibly, but the BBC won’t refer to them as a terrorist group. That’s the issue. This is quite an interesting read on it. https://www.thearticle.com/the-bbc-and-hamas-the-perils-of-impartiality

I know,. you're right....was thinking this earlier on. I'm assuming it can be moved?!

Have a seat, and let's start again shall we? A variety of sources is any number of news outlets that one might read to form an opinion. BBC, Sky, ITV, C4 or the written media. Now that i've written the names of other news sources, does that help you a bit?

I’m assuming you can’t read properly. The countries mentioned here believe that Hamas is a terrorist organisation. The BBC haven’t. Their definition was at the top of the article - Hamas is a Palestinian armed group and political movement in the Gaza Strip

Jesus wept indeed. It’s ok to be wrong. You do understand that balance comes from a variety of sources? I don’t listen to any one source and regard that as the truth. I know, my standards really are very high. Unthinkable to want a state broadcaster that we pay for, to call a terrorist group….a terrorist group.

I'm not sure why you'd think a forum discussion about the BBC would break my heart. Well the evidence suggests they didn't refer to Hamas as a terrorist organisation. To obtain a balance of opinions on anything you need to hear all sides. That's how you get a balanced view. I watch all news outlets to try and be informed, and come to my own conclusion. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67039975 That article is from 21st January. Opening paragraph..... Hamas is a Palestinian armed group and political movement in the Gaza Strip. On 7 October 2023 it attacked Israel, killing about 1,200 people and taking more than 250 hostages. Can't see the BBC describing them as a terrorist group.....can you?

Oh I don’t know….ones that call terrorists, terrorists. You?

We pay the licence fee for what should be impartial coverage, and we don't get it. This particular incident, along with their refusal to refer to Hamas as a terrorist organisation (as proscribed in the UK), does raise questions..... I've always been a big fan of the BBC, and still like a lot of the stuff they do but it's still being questionably run. If you want balanced news you need other news outlets.