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I am sure the families of the people who lost loved ones would love your comparison with what is going on at a football club.

My hero, jeez Stanley have you morphed into Alpine or something? As for your comment, this is just football we are talking about. I used to think Saints fans were decent people but comments like that make me wonder.

Chelsea it would seem, as he is their player.

Alpine can't be up yet. He will go into meltdown mode when he hears this.

And how do you cme to that decision Stanley? If Chelsea want him back or to move him on to Watford that is hardly down to Lowe is it? That is the problem with players you don't own. They can be moved on.

Did I miss something? Did hundreds of people just die???

He is not our player and we do not call the shots on his future.

What, apart from the fact that he assumes that nothing will be done about the situation??? Obvioulsy the people who run the club hadn't seen what Alpine had picked up, but now that he has identified the problem I am sure someone from the club will do something about it. (insert smiley thing here)

David Armstrong for me, no question.

I am sorry Leon, it is a good disguise but the cheap aftershave gave you away. Now go and sit with the riff raff, there's a good man.

It appears that Smith has had a run of injury and illness so perhaps there is more to come? Either way, lets hope that he and the other guy can produce the goods and help turn things round in the New Year.

Alpine, I think you will find that it is the way that you post, your constant negativity (which stretches way back beyond the current regime) the way that you dismiss anyone who disagrees with you and the abuse that you dish out regularly and your Mr Angry online persona which all single you out for attention. You are in no way realistic. You constantly use anything and everything to attack the club and the people who run it. If a CB is recalled it is the end of life as we know it in your book. A previous manager was supposed to be sabbotaging our attempts to get promoted. Realistic??? No just very childish and pathetic. A realistic person looks at all angles and makes objective judgements. You just wade in with your size 12s and seize on virtually every bit of news/gossip and turn it into a negative attack. I have lost count of the number of threads that you have started on here that are NEGATIVE. I remember not so long ago a game when we were two nil up, playing well and going for a third, and all you could muster up was "oh, I hope we can hang on." Don't you think that a realistic person would look at the current situation something like this? That we have Lowe back, like it or not. We don't have any money like it or not. We have a new set up which is was never going to deliver overnight but is part of a long term strategy, like it or not. We were always going to have tough year like it or not. That this is our club and although we might be unhappy with what is going on, the people that are here are doing their best in difficult circumstances and need support (and constructive rather than destructive critisism)rather than be torn apart at every opportunity by cyber warriors who have never played football at a decent level, never run a fooball club and have absolutely no idea of what is going on behind the scenes. Your positive posts are few and far between Alpine and you seem to revel in the club's misfortune. I think you biggest problem is that you think that everyone thinks like you or ought to think like you, and that if thye don't then there is something wrong with them. Perhaps you should go back and try reading some of your old threads as if written by someone esle. My God they are depressing. Realists do not make negative assumptiosn about everthing that happens. You do. Isn't the whole point about following a football club about the belief that no matter what happens today, that things will be better tomorrow? That we will win the next game. That we will have a decent cup run. They we will be promoted again one day. That we will put 6 past United again one day? You seem to get your kicks from thinking that we will lose the next game. That we will be out of the cup. That we will get relegated. That United will put 6 past us. If that is the case why even bother? You are not a realist. You are a pessimist. If you really cannot see that Alpine then I genuinely feel sorry for you. People want dreams but all you do is p*ss all over those dreams and offer up nightmares. You are like some characature of a goth football supporter conjured up by Tim Burton. Your posts depress the hell out of me Alpine. More so than anything Lowe has ever done. We all know things are cr*p. We don't need you coming on every day and rubbing our noses in it thanks. We want to believe that there is a better tomorrow. You just seem to want the people at the club, and the club as a whole, to fail so you can come back and tell us all that you were right all along. In your world tomorrow is rubbish so get in first and drag everyone down with you. Did you actually wish people Happy New Year last night? Or being a "realist" did you tell people that their houses would be worth less in 2009, they were likely to lose their jobs and someone they know will get cancer?

Why do you think he has decamped to Austria?

Players come and go all the time nowdays with the prevelance of loan deals. Why should SFC suddenly crumble? If we lose one or two players then it is down to the club to replace them, as it has done time and timer and time again without the world ending.

What are you talking about? They are not "noble" reasons, where did I ever say that. They are pragmatic reasons which everyone who decides not to go regularly (apart from teh Lowe boycotters) use. They involve things like children, expense, working, living a long way away and getting out of the habit of going to live football regularly on Saturdays when I started playing football myself when I was 17. Pretty boring stuff really wouldn't you agree? And the reason I did not mention it earlier. And guess what, I have never ever NOT gone to a match because I did not like, the Chairman/Manager/Groundsman/Tea Lady. I went to the 1976 Cup Final but did not go to the last one. Why? Because as I no longer go to many matches I felt it unfair to take a ticket from someone who did. Now that is "noble".

That is why we (and 99.9% of teams) do not play total football. I don't know where this idea came from. Is it just because JP and Wotte are Dutch? Even the great Brazilian side of 1970 did not play total football. When was the last time you saw a Dutch team playing total football? They did it for a while many years ago when they had the players who could do it.

Same poster, same doom-laden pessimistic post. A new year is just around the corner Alpine, why not make a new year's resolution to try and be less bloody miserable?

I do go to games, just not many. That is my choice for reasons other than who the Chairman is. I would not say I prefer to "support" from afar but that is the way it is.

Actually I am far from it Stanley. But if you think that smoking makes you interesting good luck with that. We all have to die of something but I choose to die of something that is not related to what I chose to put in my lungs thanks very much. And more so in realtion to my children. It is funny isn't it. You harbour this deep seated hatred of Rupert Lowe whose only crime seems to be that he is a toff with rosey cheeks who runs your football club in a way you are not ahppy with - but you are quite happy to poison other people's lungs despite the fact that they have chosen they don't want to smoke??? If it helps, I view that attitude with the same contempt as you hold Lowe. If that makes me boring I can live quite happily with that.

Perhaps we do. Just as we consider how much strain these drug addicts put on the NHS.

If it means that fewer people are being butcherd by drunk drivers and fewer people are being killed as "passive" smokers then it is no bad thing. I am fed up with those who think it is perfectly okay to tramble over other people's rights to get all sanctimonious about their own. The pubs I drink in are full of people who either now walk or get cabs. They do not smell of beer or body odour and it is a pleasure to return home and not stink of an ashtray. It is also a peause to go out for a meal now with the kids and not worry about what they are breathing in. If people want to continue to smoke no one is stopping them. Just do it where you damage your own lungs and not mine, my kids or those of the people who chose not to smoke. Not hard is it? And if you think that this is only down to Brown, let's see what the next Tory party do when in power shall we? No one is saying that you can't carry on damaging your own health - just that you can no longer damage other people's (apart from the selfish ones who still think it is okay to smole where it says no smoking).

Excellent post. You need to read this Alpine and friends.

So Stanley, it doesn't bother you to have people who chose not to smoke have to inhale yours? This "nanny" law is here for a reason and it is here to protect people who do not want to breath in harmful fumes from those of you intent on damaging themselves. It is now a pleasure to go to a pub and other public places and not be polluted with other people's smoke. This is one piece of nanny legislation that should be applauded.

Please bring Um Pahars' nephew in to help run the club asap.