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Ottery, I think we are all saddended about what has been happening here for a number of years. Some people think it is all down to one man, others think it is down to a number of reasons. As we saw when Lowe left for a while, managing the expectations of the fans of a club like SFC is not easy and the new bunch did not fare well either. I totally agree with FCs post. I think we are where we are because of money (or lack of it). If agree with Lowe at all it comes down to living within our means, or trying to. I don't see the point in coming on here every day and giving him or JP a kicking. They are both doing their best (I believe) in difficult circumstances, what else can you ask? Ok, so there were/are other options. Whose to say they would pan out any better. None of us (no Um Pahars, not even you) are privvy to what goes on with the bankers or in Board meetings - and those that think they know are usually fed spin from others with their own agendas. Negativity is pulling this club apart (and who is to say it didn't play a part in Cork's decsions to leave?). Constructive critisism is fine, but who ofetn do you see that here? Usually it is the same old Lowe out, we are all doomed because of him stuff. Rate him or not, JP is our manager right now and needs all the support he can get, as does the club. We need to find a way to look past the blame game and witch hunting mindset and get behind SFC. We also need to see that jsut because someone doesn't not pin every single mistake down to Lowe that they are not his supporters of him in disguise. Of all the posters here I can think of only two who overtly support Lowe outright.

Which I suppose means that you think that I am Rupert Lowe? Every time Lowe opens his mouth people want him to shut up. Fans like to hear from their managers don;t they. Hardly the managers fault if they can't conjure up a Churchillian speach at the drop of a hat. Please tell me how many managers that you think are worth listening to on a regular basis? While you are at it, what issues do you have with FCs post (do you think that he is Rupert Lowe too?) Oh and here's another thought...if I am Rupert Lowe, are you Lawrie McMenemy? Finally, why is it that anyway who tries to find some balance is seen as being a RL plant?

I have voted for MC as a right sided striker but Big Ron would get my vote for our best out and out centre forward.

How so? Do I come on here and slag off people at the club every day? Do I come and post negative comments about the club every day?

Yes he did make mistakes, but so did the other players. Only he and Wright were singled out for special attention on here as I rember.

It happens in every business. I have left meetings and told my staff that A is happening only to find out a few days later that things have changed and B is happening. Jan can either say I don't know what is happening and make himself look like he desn't know what is going on, or he can say what is happening right now in answer to a question and be made to look like he doesn't know what is going on in hindsight if things change. To be fair, doesn't this happen at every club? Phone calls are made all of the time, decisions changed all of the time, spin spun all of the time. It doesn't just happen here.

Apparently mnay people at the club read this site, including Mr Wilde on occasions, so I was say yes is the answer.

Good to see you posting again FC. This place needs more common sense posting and less of the knee jerk reactionary stuff the the Usual Suspects trot out every day.

Would a player of Keegan's ability sign for a club like SFC nowdays even with LM at the helm? No. We simply could not afford the wages. (ps, Keegan's signing also had a lot to do with the fact that his best mate Channon did a lot to sell the club to him).

Maybe to squash all of the cyber gossip that several players had already been lined up to leave? If you believed what you read on here both Lallana and Surman were off in January and that is why they were not playing against United (apart from the fact that Surman did play and Lallana is injured).

It is not rocket science is it? At the moment it is enitely possible that no one is leaving. All it needs is someone to pick up a phone and make an offer and it could all change. Isn't that the way it should be? If someone comes in with a deal that makes things better for us in some way or another, why not do the deal just because it has been said earlier that no one is leaving?

Considering the fearful stick the poor bloke got in his first couple of seasons it is good to see him get some credit now. Burley also came in from some heavy flak for signing him in the first place (eh Alpine, changed your tune I see).

And this from the man who would have a party if the Chairman died??? Perhaps you should reread your own words Stanley - when all said and done this is only a game.

Yep, with your nephew waiting in the wings Steve why not? Why exactly should he stand down though? Because you don't rate him? It is his job until either the club or he decides otherwise, not some jumped up cyber jockey. As for platitudes, as I am sure you know football managers are not the most gifted in the speach department and JP has to deliver his in a foreign language. Perhaps you would like to come on here and talk eloquently in Dutch?

There is another option which you don't seem to have considered Stanley, that he is telling the truth?

Damn, I must have missed that Steve. Shame, I am sure there were plenty of rolly eyed thingies there too.

Unlike you matey I am not one of anyones boys and manage to follow my football club without having an agenda, something you seem unable to do. "Blindly leads us down a blind alley"?? And I am talking tripe???

If you had bothered to read what I said properly I gave due praise to LMs acheivements here as manager, although I am sure you understand that finances did not play such a huge part in football in those days and he was able to bring in the sort of player that we have not been able to afford in more recent times. I was talking about what LM brings to the party now, which is pure nostalgia.

GReat times, but Lawrie could not amass that type of team here nowdays. He was a man of his time but times hav emoved on. Can't blame him for rehashing the glory days as we have not had many of those at this club, but he did not cover himslef in glort when he came back and seems to forget that we almost went down last year whilst he was here to give us his enormous experience. I bet Alex Ferguson and Big Phil arehaving a laugh. How many roadsweepers do they have playing for them? How many did Brazil have in 1970? I some of Lawries better squads I don't remember too may roadsweepers either. Yes it was petty of Lowe to take his picture down, but it is also petty to hearp on about it (or have your wife harp on about it) at the AGM! His ego is a big as Lowe's if not bigger. Right now the troubles of the club are bigger than a 30+ year old photograph. If it had been a picture of the team with the trphy I would join in, but it was McMenemy. Tells you all you need to know. McMemeny talks about divisiness but he is being divisive. Whaetver you think of Lowe, he did preside over our more successful periods in the last decade and things were not all bad. McMenemy's record since leaving us sucks. He managed us well but fecked up at Sunderland big time. He knows about running a team but his attempts with others to run a football club were shabby.

I am saying that what is happening at SFC can hardly be compared to the loss of life.

A traitor??? Oh dear. I support the club. You have withdrawn your financial support, what does that make you Stanley?

I am not the one making stupid comparisons.

Yep, and perhaps the board of Woolies should have bought a few tons of pick'n'mix between them too?

That wont stop people having a pop at the board will it. Having said that, so much for being happy here and wanting to stay!!!

So it is okay then? Fine, let's carry on likening our fortunes with real disasters and tragedies. How about likening it to 9/11 next?