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Perhaps everyone on here who thinks it is a walk in the park running a club like SFC (I will never forget Um Pahars saying that his nephew could do it) should be forced to read this article every day for the next two weeks.

LOL, touche. But I do wish these guys would shut up and save their mud slinging for when the season is over.

The whole Fan On The Board thing I never got. Really, what was the point other than to say, look at us, we are so cool because we are letting a fan sit in on certain meetings. There is no point in sitting on a Board unless you can offer something other than a "presence." And there was always going to be a problem with who that fan was. Given the way that stuff gets spun on here from certain individuals, who could you trust to report back what was really being said and going on? Saints Trust? Bit of an oxymoron.

It seems that adminstration threads are the new takeover threads! As before, I will believe it when the ink is dry on the paper......

Spot on. It is the old If you ain't for us your agin us arguement. The usual suspsects constantly use the Lowe Luvvie jibe to drown out any reasoned arguements and to back up their own agendas. If you are not part of the lynch party get ready to get lynched yourself.

Poor old Alpine, you are so deluded. If someone is now drowned in negative how does that make them "happy clappy". I am not the least bit happy about this season but I am not going to slit my wrists (or make others feel that they want to after reading your posts) becuse my football club is rubbish right now. You were spouting the same cr*p when we were fighting for a play off place mate. Get over yourself and get some therapy. I have seen much football this season (but I have seen more than Alpine) so I don't comment much about the team. I wasn't born in Southampton (Londoner) but I have been a Saints fan since 1966 (really through thick and thin) and I would like to think tha allows me to have an opnion about what is going on and voice that opinion here. Because I have seen good times and bad I'd like to think I have a balanced view on matters rather than the all is doom that some love to pedal. And do you what, at the end of the day it is just football. If you all you find in supporting this club is doom, negativity and anger, maybe you should do something else with your time?

Stanley Out!!!

I can't tell you where all of the many other clubs have gone wrong, but I bet their fans could.

The third attempt to get Ted Bates' statue just right...

The negativity is a killer. Also those with agendas and fixed ideas who keep banging on about them day after day after day after day.... When it comes right down to it, this is a football club. Nothing more nothing less. It is run by people who go to work like us and make decisions like us and who make mistakes like us. You should be able to come on ad have som elight hearted banter about things, but no, it is now much more serious than adolescent knife crime, the failing economy or Global warming. There used to be a joy in supporting a football club, even when things were not going well. Now it is as depressing as one of Alpine many negative threads.

There are plenty of other clubs who have made even bigger mistakes or are suffering worse than us. Charlton might not have gone down "the Dutch route" but they have had a quicker decline than we have for example.

I wish that were true, but given that there are certain people who continue to drag up previous managers names and give them a good slagging I fear the negativity will run for years. It is like a drug for some, they have to come on and get their fix. The negative people here (and we all know who they are) thrive on it and were slagging the club off even when we were fighting for a play off spot. That ain't gong to change with our fortunes on the field sadly.

LOL, Duncan plays this forum like a well worn fiddle. A little snippett of "inside information", leave 'em hanging, light the blue touch paper and retire and watch the fun unfold from a distance. If a Lowe PR plant had pulled such a stunt he would have been ripped aprt on here, but a Crouch/Corbett plant get the hornet's nest all stirred up adding further weight to his agenda. Dontch just love plants? Better than Eastenders this!!!

What it does mean that we are now more likely to bombarded with misinformation. What would take ages to spread by chinese whispers now spreads in seconds. One PR plant for either side can, and do have a field day on sites like these whereas, in the old days, you would have had to put a plant in every pub in Southampton. It is a perfect tool for those with an agenda that they are hell bent on spreading. You would like to think that most people could sort the wheat from the chaff, those with an agenda from those without, but adly all too often anything bit of thord hand old tatt on here often get swallowed as the truth and deabted for days. I used to like going on the old Saints List where there was, for the most part, good natured banter. There were also decent match reports and reports too from the training ground which were always very interesting. Yep, there would be the occasional bit about a chairman, but in the main we talked about football. How much of this site is dedicated to football, the team and training now? We all know that most threads are all about you know who. Having said that, the threads that pull in most views are the ones about the game or aout transfer speculation so it seems that there is a huge silent majority here who log on to read that stuff and don't bother with the ploitics. As with most things in life, it is the people who shout loudest get the most attention. Sadly the people who shout loudest here are the ones with the biggest agendas and many of them are the most negative people on God's earth. Oh for the days of good natured banter....

It is probably a question of us not being able to afford not to play him now. At the start of the season we did not know we would be 2nd from bottom now. Decisions were made on keeping the club afloat which meant off loading the high earners. That was done. Obviously we have managed to avoid administration so the financial juggling must be working. Saga and Rudi have not found clubs elsewhere so they are back here. If we can't find another home for them it makes sense to play them doesn't it? If they are up for it (which apparently Rudi wasn't for part of the season). But once more we spend ages looking back, time to look forward. We have some players capabale of keeping us up, at the moment that is the only thing that matters.

Nail on head time FC. Wotte's association with Lowe will do him no favours, just as Burley was tarred with the same brush. I had little doubt that if Lowe had appointed Pearson, who only managed 3 wins in 13 and was 20 mins away from relegation, Pearson would no have the apparent hero status he has now. Stats don't lie. 1.14 points per game - only .03 more than Branfoot and .09 more then Gray. Yet he is the one that got away? Makes you wonder...

Well whatever you think about Lowe, let's hope that his new "Head Coach" can do the biz and keep us up eh?

Sacking, resigning, leaving my mutual consent....whatever...fact is he is gone and I suspect that there was a discussion beforehand...

To be fair StRobbie, I don't think that either Lowe or Wotte are "putting this club down". It is in both of their interests to be successful with SFC is it not? I doubt very much if the people at Charlton are interested in putting their club down. The problem is every club is desparate for success or to stay up. No one is going to roll over and give SFC an easy ride, and why should they? I want everybody at SFC to be successful because if they are then SFC is. It is a shame that some want certain individuals to fail so they can glory in their own brilliance and foresight.

No it won't, but it will sort the men out from the boys. If we can keep a steady nerve and fight for every point we could just turn this awful season around.

My thoughts too, but they still eventually rally round and find a nice juicy reason to bring up the evil Chairman or some other muddy negative thread to peddle their own brand of "support". Can you imagine being in the trenches besides these guys? Not exactly the types to instill some fighting spirt or morale are they? Unless it is in-fighting of course.

That is your opinion. If I was that obsessed with him why do you think he is on my ignorel list? Sadly though i still get to read his negative offerings through people's replies. I think the fact that you seem to have some kind of affinity with the wise words of our Austrain based friend that says for more about you than it does me. Frankly, if Alpine had been based in Austria in the 2nd World War I suspect that the Von Trapps would have handed themselves willingly over to the Nazis well before the closing credits.

I will never get the anti Burley thing. In his one full season he did a good job. We were in no danger of going down at the point he left. He didn't throw his toys out of the pram when he lost Jones, Baird and Bale and if he was hacked off about it, kept his own counsel. And as much as Alpine would have us belive he was a rubbish manager, he manged to achieve an average of 1.54 points per game, the best performancer out of managers dating back to Ted Bates and probably before. If that is a rubbish manager give me another one like that please.

Once Pearson left he became Alpine's hero as he had been dismissed by evil Count Lowe. No doubt if Lowe had hired him in the first place Pearson would have got the usual treatment from the bunker in Austria. Let's fact it, Alpine isn't overly complimenatry about anyone is he? I suspect on his wedding day, when the Vicar asked if anyone objected to the marriage the, whole of Mrs Alpine's family rose to their feet as one and shouted "We do!"

You have to hand it to Alpine. He can certainly make a sow's ear out of a sile purse. If this forum had been around in 1966 I bet he would be on for weeks after we won the World Cup berating Ramsey for dropping Paine and not playing wingers. We won but still he finds an excuse to pedal his own peculiar brand of negativity. Alpine, we won, knock yourself out why dont you and celebrate the fact!