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You don’t think that we are in this mess because of the last 14 years or Tory policies? People are entitled to change their minds. Surely a pragmatic approach is better than a dogmatic approach. Needs must etc. So you have no actual evidence that Starmer and Harris are Marxists, you just think that. Ok. The train strike needed to be resolved and they were always going to get more money - even if the Tories were still in power. Labour voting pensioners are more likely to be affected than Tory voting pensioners - many of whom do not need the winter fuel allowance. Surely if Starmer was a Marxist he would be taking from the rich and giving to the poor? Not a great start for the Marxist revolution is it? Any real evidence? Talking of ruining the country, any thoughts on Liz Truss’s budget?

You are entitled to believe what you like. Where is your evidence that Starmer and Harris are Marxists?

What is so odd about a member of the Labour Party wanting the Labour Party to be elected? We can spend time talking about Corbynism and Marxism but as you clearly know as much about Marxism as Donald Trump it seems pointless. Out of interest, do you honestly believe that, under Corbyn, we would no longer have been a capitalist country? The reason many hard Left supporters are against Starmer is because they don’t believe that he shares the same values. Starmer is the PM. Starmer kicked Corbyn out of the Labour Party. Explain to us please how, in your mind, that he is a raging Marxist when he has alienated many of the Far Left of the party already.

God forbid that there should be a half decent/competent human being leading the Tory Party for a change. Still, you support Farage so that says it all.

I’m not sure about the patient bit. I had many a row with dear old Alpine about him, even when we hammered Wolves away he was slagging him off. There were plenty of people calling for his head along with the usual - plays his mates, no plan B, should be doing better with the players at his disposal (where have we heard that before?) etc. I appreciate the stats thing, and yes, he managed at a lower level but you can only play what is in front of you and he still had a decent return of points, just not good enough sadly.

How exactly do Starmer and Harris compare to them?

I know a couple of people who could be described as Marxists. Both of them hated Blair with a passion and think that Starmer is just a soft Tory. Judging by their Facebook posts before the election they would have been very happy for Labour to have lost and for there to be a change of leader back towards Corbynism. To define the current PM and Labour Party government as Marxist is beyond comprehension and I can only assume that GM is on a wind up. As for the US, the Democratic Party have and always been centre right and the Republicans further right. You know the Marxist accusation is nonsense when Trump starts throwing at the Democrats. More desperation along with claims that the Haitians are eating pets. Harris was spot on yesterday. Hold a mirror up to the narcissist and watch him unravel. She kept him on the back foot and she needs to keep him there. To his supporters he can do no wrong, but hopefully more and more swing voters are seeing him for what he is and will do the right thing come polling day.

Perhaps you should put a bit more effort into yours rather than just call people c*nts? Still, your posts appeal to those with the same mindset as you so I guess it works, eh Whelk?

He was rumoured to have a drink problem. Given the drinking culture amongst footballers in those days I wouldn’t be surprised. The expectations were high when he arrived but when it became clear that we weren’t going to be amongst the front runners a lot of people turned on him on here. He had a similar win % to Lawrie McMenemy and like you, I don’t think he deserves to be anywhere near a list of our poor managers. Best wishes to him for a full and speedy recovery.

He didn’t pick up any of Patel’s votes which were split fairly evenly between the other 3 successful candidates. Cleverly isn’t the sharpest knife in the draw (nicknamed Jimmy Dimly) and Tugendhat might have more appeal for those who voted for Stride. The further down the line we get the more that voters might be thinking about getting a job in the shadow cabinet at the end of it, so we might see more votes going to the leading candidates.

Mel Stride knocked out today. It looks like Jenrick and Badenoch will be the final two at the moment. If it is those two who go forward to the membership vote, what a choice!

This is for Whelk who is especially concerned over the killing of innocent civilians (depending on their religion of course). https://news.sky.com/story/sudan-war-they-started-killing-people-in-the-streets-13210692 Sickening isn’t it, no matter who the victims are? More background information here. https://amp.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/mar/22/what-caused-the-civil-war-in-sudan-and-how-has-it-become-one-of-the-worlds-worst-humanitarian-crises

I don’t know but I am interested to know just how much concern we can show towards the innocent people killed and injustices performed against them in the other parts of the world before you think it is ok for us to post about our concerns about what is happening in Gaza and the West Bank here. If you are so concerned about “Arabs killing blacks” perhaps you would like to start a thread here? No? I thought not. I don’t think that we have a thread here about the level of knife crime in the UK. Do you honestly believe that no ones cares about it? Talking about “self- righteous anti-Semites” how do you feel about self righteous Islamophobes? The UN seems to be full of what you call “self-righteous anti-Semites,” how do you feel about that? Be honest. Your issue is that you hate Muslims and are upset that some people look past their religion and just see ordinary people being killed, mutilated and displaced, just as happened in 7th October. The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim eh Whelk? You have made it perfectly clear here that you are ok with the ordinary citizens in Gaza and the West Bank paying the price for what Hamas did. Your attempt at deflection hasn’t worked (again). Neither does your pathetic attempt to label those who criticise the actions of Netanyahu, his government and the IDF as anti-Semitic. There is absolutely nothing “self-righteous” either about being concerned about a genocide happening before our eyes. Would you have said the same about those posting against the ethnic cleansing during the Balkans conflict? You wanted a reaction. You got one, but all you have managed to do is to show how little you care about one group of humanity (again).

This thread is about Israel and the current conflict in Gaza and the West Bank is it not? It is possible to have feelings about a subject without starting a thread about it here. I expect many here are concerned about the level of knife crime in this country too. It doesn’t make it any less of an issue because there isn’t a thread about it here. But then you and Whelk know that don’t you? As for the comment “they hate injustices and innocents being slaughtered,” the word “they” seems to indicate that the writer does not have a problem with injustices and innocents being slaughtered. No surprise given his previous post where he made it clear that everyone in Gaza killed by the IDF are fair game.

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Another one of those weird people on here who got upset when it was said that Germany was a Christian country back in the 30’s and 40’s? I thought you were smarter than the others. Clearly not. Anyway, back on subject. As for Coronavirus, I had visit to the doc’s surgery to have a Shingles jab a couple of weeks ago. We were talking about when my booster for Covid was due and she said there has been a further increase with the numbers going down with it recently. They think that fewer people bother to test themselves anymore so don’t stay at home, treat it just like a cold or mild flu and end up spreading it further.

1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said: Carsley can fuck off if he can’t even be bothered to sing the national anthem. If he wins football matches playing attractive, attacking football he could sing Wonderwall instead for all I care.

He was suggesting that you are wasting your time here amongst us inferior beings. Perhaps try a MENSA forum? No one is going to ban you nic, you are far too entertaining. Your “different options” are always worth a chuckle for those of us not bright enough to understand them.

He has problems with powerful women. Even bigger problems with powerful black women. Hopefully she just has to turn up and he will do the rest himself.

It depends who the person is whom they are assuming that they are more intelligent than nic. And you don’t need a degree to be smarter than someone who believes in conspiracy theories. 😉

Patel the first one to bite the dust. Jenrick currently out in front with Badenoch second.

There is a lot of derision at the so called ‘Nanny State.’ but this is where deregulation gets you. Sadly the criminal prosecution will take time because they can’t use the information from the inquiry in the case. Starmer made a strong speech just now and hopefully pressure will be applied on the CJS to bring prosecutions as quickly as possible. They are talking about 18 months to 2 years though.

Not surprising but the report is pretty damning. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2024/sep/04/grenfell-tower-inquiry-report-published-survivors-victims-government-latest-updates https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/04/world/europe/grenfell-tower-fire-inquiry-report-uk.html

The new series of Colin From Accounts started last night. Excellent if you like Aussie humour and paraplegic dogs. Looking forward to the 4th series of Slow Horses. Superb on every level. Just caught up with Sherwood. Didn’t fancy it first time round but binge watched Series 1 and am now up to date with series 2. For those who lived through the Miners strike it is a very well observed drama using that as a backdrop. Very well written and acted. Worth a look. Hard to believe that was 40 years ago.

From what I have heard so far it will be Noel’s High Flying Birds with Liam singing and perhaps Bonehead in the line up too. Did I see that the tickets were now selling for up to 6k on the black market? And we will be talking of OAP’s suffering hypothermia in winter. Crazy.