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Would you honestly be happy for the USA to return to the days of “splendid isolation?” That worked well for us 🙄

The USA out of the way suits Putin big time. How would you feel about Europe going it alone in NATO too?

More grim news for the civilian population of Gaza. https://m.independent.ie/world-news/israel-passes-legislation-banning-main-un-aid-agency-in-gaza/a1024505081.html

No doubt there will a few holding a candlelit vigil for our hero tonight and Batman will be on soon complaining about a two tier legal system.

Erik is now available.

That wasn’t my point.

We have posters who will find this funny. https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/28/lesson-israel-unfathomably-cruel-war-might-is-right

Anyone from here popping along? https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/donald-trump-tommy-robinson-far-right-politics-victoria-parliament-london-b1190313.html

I’m always up for a bit of hypocrisy if it involves making fun of conspiracy theorists like you. As for me being a fool, calling me one makes you a hypocrite, doesn’t it? In fact, I would go further. Anyone who thinks there is no difference between Biden/Harris and Trump is more than a fool. I would suggest that they have some serious cognitive impairment.

The person I berated was making a childish, pathetic comment over a deeply serious matter which had seen tens of thousands of people killed, maimed and displaced. You, on the other hand, are clearly easily fooled and gullible and are regularly mocked on here. You regularly call others names but get upset when you get some back. Frankly, from what I have read, you are fair game and if you want to spout your conspiracy theories here, fine, but you really need to grow a thicker skin. I made a very light hearted joke about reptilians. I am sure you have had a lot worse. 🐸

Another racist https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjdl5y3y3mvo.amp

Bless you nic. It is quite incredible that you accuse others of the lack of self awareness when you clearly have no idea how you come across to others yourself. Mentally disturbed? I don’t know if you are yourself, but your posts are those of someone is a several prawns short of a barbie.

One of this country’s biggest racists has been remanded under the terrorism act and will not be able to attend his own rally tomorrow. The melt down on his X account by the knuckle draggers who support him is the funniest thing I have seen for a very long time.

You have to be a special kind of sociopath to continuously post laughing emojis after posts dealing with the death, destruction and displacement of tens of thousands of innocent people. And again. Sick individuals. Here, have a chuckle over this. https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/25/israeli-airstrikes-kill-across-gaza

No hypocrisy here then Nigel. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage-used-33000-uk-33952661.amp

I’m sorry to hear that and completely understand where you are coming from. I don’t believe for one minute that it would be extended that far and if there were attempts to do so I am sure there would be a huge amount of opposition. The important word is choice. No one is going to be forced into anything they don’t want to do and if we ever get to the point where a Government is bringing in mandatory measures to euthanise people we will have plenty more to worry about as we will be living in a dictatorship. In the end it doesn’t really matter what I think. It matters to those that it will affect now and in the future. That is why I would like people to have a choice about their end of life care under certain circumstances, fully supported by our health care system. I see Wes Streeting is going to vote against the bill.

If Trump wins Trump will do what he always does and play whatever situation he finds himself in to his advantage. If it suits him to be pally with Starmer I am sure that is what he will be. I don’t see that Labour should pull any support from volunteers for their party as the leader of Reform supports Trump and the Tories are behind the Tepublican party. If they are going to worry about every single political optic they are going to hamstring themselves while the other parties carry on doing exactly what they want. From what is in the public domain so far, neither Starmer nor the Labour Party have done anything wrong. Do we really want a PM who is going to worry about what Trump thinks of him and us all the time? Remember the bit in Love Actually between our PM and the POTUS? 😉

So Donny is very upset about Labour volunteers flying to the States to support the Democrats. Apparently this isn’t unusual and Tory MPs have also been involve in supporting the Republicans in the past. Let’s not forget the support given to Trump by a Leader of a major political party here too. Does he really believe that a few Labour MPs will make any difference at all in the way the US votes? I doubt it, just another example of him playing the victim card.

Why is it not sensible or rational to ask people who oppose the assisted dying of terminally ill people if they agree with abortion or not and the giving of a non resuscitation order? It seems a perfectly reasonable question to me. I can understand why people might oppose it on the grounds that all life is sacred. I do struggle to understand why someone would stand in the way of a terminally ill person with months to live being given the opportunity to die with dignity at a time of their choosing. You shouldn’t have to fly to Switzerland or put your family and loved ones through the trauma of a suicide or attempted suicide. I get the argument about the system being abused, but that should get in the way of the basic principle. Strict procedures need to be in place, but should well meaning people really get in the way of the wishes of someone who is suffering and is very close to the end of their life?

The issue is completely polarised, like Brexit. Those who are pro life will be deeply unhappy if they loose the vote as will those who support the motion. Whether it is just MPs or a referendum is doesn’t really matter. One way or another an awful lot of people will not accept the decision as being the right one. From my point of view though those who will benefit personally from the assisted dying motion through less suffering stand to gain a lot more than anyone else if the motion is passed.

If the argument against the use of assisted dying is the “sanctity of life” then it isn’t apples and pears at all. It is all about choice and who gets to make those choices. Your attempt to swerve a perfectly reasonable attempt at dealing with a difficult subject by claiming that I am trying to derail the thread is something I expect from the others. I thought you were better than that.

Your first point is precisely why this case should have gone to court. Those who would use this as an example of bias now have nothing to back that up. You really are spending way too much time in your local ale house. Justice is a process. It is not an absolute. At the end of a case you often will find that one side or the other will feel that justice has not been done. I’ve made this point serval times. OJ Simpson went through the judicial system and was found not guilty of the murder of his ex wife and friend. There are countless examples of miscarriages of justice. Because a jury comes to a decision, it doesn’t change what actually happened, it just provides a verdict after a legal procedure. “Justice” often depends of the competency of the prosecution/defence lawyers. But then you know that don’t you. And for avoidance of doubt, I do think that this was the right verdict.

I’d be interested to know if those who are strongly against the policy of assisted dying for those who are terminally ill - a) If you are also against abortion and b) do you agree or disagree with making an anti-resuscitation decision for next of kin or dependants?

And only terrorists….oh! https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-agency-says-israel-still-preventing-aid-reaching-northern-gaza-2024-10-21/

My understanding is that, under our system, only the terminally ill will be considered. What others do is down to them and doesn’t mean that we will end up following suit.