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Really Elon?

I wonder how those who think that Israel can do no wrong would feel if the Palestinians were dividing up their country? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/02/israel-announces-intention-seize-large-areas-gaza-strip

I assume you are referring to me. I did explain that the element in the Government who are intent on wiping out Palestinians happen to be Jewish Israelis and have differentiated between Netanyahu and his cronies and other Israelis since as you seemed intent on taking my posts against these extremists as antisemitism. At the time you didn’t even to know how to spell Netanyahu so your in depth knowledge of the situation looks a bit shaky. Going on holiday to Israel doesn’t make you an expert in the conflict, clearly. Getting back to what is happening, more atrocities here. The IDF are saying that they shot at Hamas. At least one of the care workers had his hands tied behind his back when he was shot dead. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/31/israel-killed-15-palestinian-paramedics-and-rescue-workers-one-by-one-says-un

Badenoch again demonstrates her complete inability to understand why she is not fit to be anywhere near Parliament. She hasn’t seen the programme apparently but still manages to have an opinion on its content but also manages to shoe horn another issue in order to try and appeal to Faragists. Worse still, her opinion about the programme she says she hasn’t seen appears to based on Musk’s comments on X. https://www.aol.co.uk/badenoch-claims-adolescence-fundamentally-changed-101457897.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACAbrgw12b2h2l3jtzkbi1gtahIae6898ZOkFCYgT6Al1r3l0fuu5F9Yag-6KUdD2fl_gW4kqRO1SA60B1ueuKZr707NzKOM66CQ8bzoJwTWidNorvEAWkNzpc-oXvIdGPPdumiFrdrQlSF8bH5YRtSQTiU1rTS4SVIdQCKflpF5

It is also very weird that a grown man pretends to be something he isn’t to complete strangers. Not much of a role model to kids, not least his own. Apart from spending his days on here trolling away, he lies to complete strangers about his job. I wonder what his boss would make of it all?

Sad news. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2033616/whsmith-to-sell-modella-capital-new-name/amp

You don’t see a difference between taking people hostage and killing tens of thousands of other people? Given a choice I’m thinking that being taken hostage is preferable to being blow apart or buried under a building. The poster I replied to was intimating that the activities of 7th October were enough to justify laying Gaza to waste and killing tens of thousands of women and children. No mask here. Personally I don’t think that the response is, in any universe, justifiable or proportionate. He also tried to conflate WW2 with what is happening in Gaza at the moment as if Hamas is in any way comparable to any of the main forces in that war. The combatants in WW2 fought with similar munitions and equipment. I am sure you can see the difference between what the IDF have at their disposal to wage war against Hamas (and the civilians in Gaza) and what they have in response. It is a turkey shoot is it not. Civilians could leave the areas being bombed during WW2. The people in Gaza are trapped. But then you know that yet chose to dig me out and support the person who posts laughing emojis in response to what has been described as genocide. Perhaps it is your mask that is slipping?

It continues… https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna198503

I don’t know how you can conflate WW2 with what is happening in Gaza unless you agree that there was genocide also in WW2. As for the hostages, how anyone can say that it is ok to kill 50,000 civilians in response to some hostages being taken is beyond belief. And you call me a vile person. You know damned well that if Hamas we’re killing this amount of civilians you would be posting about it every day and, heaven forbid, if anyone posted laughing emojis in response you would have a melt down. If Hamas we’re displacing Israelis in the West Bank from their homes we wouldn’t hear the end of it from you. It doesn’t really bother you that the elected government in Israel are acting just as badly as Hamas. Dead Muslims aren’t an issue for you so it is easy to turn a blind eye to Netanyahu and his government’s actions.

Would you be okay if Hamas had killed Israeli civilians to the tune of 50k if the situation was reversed?

Don’t hold your breath.

My point is that we are watching the deconstruction of democracy, piece by piece, in real time, in the USA. The Trump administration want the power that Putin has in Russia which is why they are distancing themselves from the liberal democracies of Europe and moving closer and closer to the autocratic Putin. Even if Trump doesn’t manage to shoehorn himself into a third term his acolytes are working on a Trump Maga clone to take his place. I was laughed at when I posted about the rise of the anti democratic far right yet we are seeing it not only in the US, but in Turkey at the moment and these parties are becoming more popular here, in France, Germany and they are already in power in Italy. The world order is changing and we are watching the it happen daily.

Can’t it be both? He could be having a sulk whilst also hamstringing some of his adversaries at the same time?

When questioned about this Trump denied any knowledge and trashed The Atlantic is time honoured fashion when cornered. He is either lying (no change there then) or his administration is so poor that they didn’t brief him on this major breach in security. How on earth do we trust these people enough to share future intelligence with them? This from last year. https://www.cpomagazine.com/cyber-security/feds-investigating-government-data-breach-impacting-the-five-eyes-intelligence-alliance/

https://apnews.com/article/no-other-land-oscar-israel-palestinians-084c63f33e748a3279646759e9b705c2#

Of course not. You don’t find it odd that some people constantly feel the need to post laughing emojis on posts about dead women and children? Wouldn’t you imagine that whatever drives their behaviour, the novelty would have worn off by now? The Lounge was always a bit weird but it seems to be getting weirder by the week.

For those who haven’t seen it yet I can thoroughly recommend Adolescence. Each episode is filmed in one take which adds to the gritty realism of the drama. The young lad who plays Jamie is phenomenal but the rest of the cast are also superb. I’ll warn you now, Episode 3 is a gut wrencher and feels like you are eavesdropping on an actual session between real people. It takes me back to the gritty black and white dramas the BBC were famous for back in the 60’s.

Over 50,000 now killed. Perhaps those who think it is appropriate to post laughing emojis on these posts would like to tell us what number will be enough? https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/03/23/gaza-death-toll-israel-hamas/

I didn’t bump into it as you say. I deliberately avoided it for some time when I saw that it was you who started it. I have read articles about Tate and posted many on here. That is why I know about his comments. You made a comment about “pushing one in the local bike” which was clearly a sexual reference. I have never said that I never pay any attention to you. There is a big difference between little and any. You sound more and more like our resident conspiracy theorist.

Why would you say that? I don’t use X and I don’t use TikTok either but I have read articles that say that is where his influence comes from. I noticed that you didn’t answer my question. I have three daughters from their mid to late twenties and pray that they never meet a man like Tate (or a few of the posters on here for that matter). I also have a step son in his early 30’s who went off the rails a bit as a teenager but thankfully has grown up as a decent guy who respects women. One particular poster wouldn’t like him though. Far too “woke”.

Obsess? I wasn’t the one who stated a thread about Tate. I am merely pointing out that whilst some are playing down his relevance he and his views are a big issue and need to be taken seriously. The media were taking him seriously several years ago. The fact that some people have only just become aware of him doesn’t mean that he has only just surfaced and has little relevance. 10million followers or not, it is the type of people that he is influencing that is a major issue. The incels who sit in their rooms every night and feed in his (and others)bullshit. There are plenty of news features about Tate going back a few years if you both to google his name. His name comes up time and again in discussions about misogyny. This is nothing to do with me and your warped idea that I am obsess with him. It is a fact. If you had a young son who was following Tate’s content every day, how would you feel about it? We know Duckie would be cool with it because that is his idea of masculinity, but who you be happy if your son grew up like Tate? No surprise to see a laughing emoji from someone who refers to women as “bikes”.

The idea that someone with his ideology with over 10m followers on X is nothing to be concerned about is bizarre to say the least.

People are the product of the times they live in. The world is a very difference place now than it was half way through the last century just as it is different to the Middle Ages. Some things improve. Some things get worse. It wasn’t that long ago that women couldn’t vote here and were expected to stay at home and raise children. Things have improved massively in some areas but they are still suffering the effects of misogyny, domestic violence and sexual assault. If Andrew Tate and his like have had one positive effect on modern life, it is that they have brought toxic masculinity back into the headlines. Maybe it will make some people think a bit more about the people who support him and his rhetoric - Trump and Farage to name but two. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/20/nigel-farage-andrew-tate-important-voice-men-podcast-interview https://news.sky.com/story/amp/the-tates-and-trumps-inner-circle-the-deepening-ties-that-led-to-the-controversial-influencers-flying-to-freedom-in-america-13318676

Which explains your attitude perfectly and why you think it is ok to call some women “9 pinters” and your wife “snapdragon”. It is 2025 Duckie, not 1939.

There is a longer list of revoked security clearances though. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/03/21/politics/security-clearances-trump-harris-clinton