Unbelievable Jeff

So, the WA, just without paying? Yeah, alright.

I'm still not sure what the EU are going to, and are expected to capitulate on. The backstop has to happen, or we'll have a hard border. If BoJo and his team of morons come up with a solution, then that'd be great, but it's still not the EU capitulating. As said previously, I think there is a solution to be had where customs forms in NI and Republic are done away from the border, but it will take time to develop the relevant technology and to implement and train successfully. It just also makes life a lot more administrative on Ireland, but that's to be expected if they want to keep away from a hard border. Either way, we'd still need a backstop until this can be fully implemented.

Great post.

Just out of interest, why did you vote to leave?

It's explained elsewhere. That's the problem when arguing without context.

We're still waiting for you report it to the police. You were informed of this last week, and you're still yet to do it, even though you made such a big deal over how racist it was. Of course, you were proven very wrong on that thread, by pretty much everyone, including mods on here. I'm assuming if you're not going to report it to the police, you are either racist, a pussy, or you don't actually believe it's a racist act. Your choice buddy.

Of course I wouldn't?? If they had made racist or xenophobic comments then I would, but no, not just for voting leave. As I said above, the leavers I didn't invite to my wedding were not invited because they are overtly racist/xenophobic.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mr-T-Fancy-Dress-A-Team-Mens-80s-Ba-Baracus-Mohawk-Beard-Bling-80-Night-Gangster/390543480226?_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D40733%26meid%3D6a71a684643446689867eeec9a86e75c%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D382408996622%26itm%3D390543480226%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109 Here's the kit, we'll wait for your Police Incident Number.

Yes, I can see that, but that's not racism. What makes you think I'm from a life of priviledge?

I'm sorry, I don't get what you're getting at. If someone has voted leave because of racist/xenophobic reasoning, then I have every reason to castigate them for that. I personally would not want to spend my time around people like that, and I will try my hardest not to.

You reported that EBay kit to the Police yet? Considering how offended you pretended to be, if not, I think we know who the one who tolerates racism is...

But racism is discriminating against people based on their race, so I'll ask again: How is what I am saying racism? What makes you think I am from a life of priviledge?

Don't disagree with that. Corbyn and McDonnell are two good examples.

I think one of the main problems with these threats, is that one of the vocal Brexiteers has admitted to some rather disgraceful feelings on certain groups of people, and that has resulted in many accusations on here. However, I don't believe people like Hypo or Batman are racist - TBH I don't know their views for leaving as they haven't really expressed them often, but I don't think they're racist. Unfortunately, I think that a select few have spoilt it for the leavers on here.

Judging by the poor spelling and grammar I presume im talking to a Brexiteer? Only kidding mate - however maybe you can explain how me discriminating against racists, is racist?

I don't ask them - I very rarely discuss Brexit with people as its too depressing for day to day conversation. Those that I have disowned, the racists, offered those views rather than being asked. As I've said previously, I believe I know very few Brexiteers, but then I tend to mix with University educated people, so I guess that stacks up.

But this isn't political views - that's the difference.

I do understand the difference - and as has been said many times we don't need to leave the EU to control unneeded immigration - we can control that.

Because if people voted leave because they are racist I won't have anything to do with them - surely that is fair? Hence, why I want to know why people voted that way.

No, we didn't invite them, as previously stated on the thread, because they admitted they voted leave because they were racist/xenophobic.

It was Egg's phrase...

OK, so are you saying that Boris is a racist then?

It's no different, but I have also argued that I'm not sure Boris is actually racist, if you want some balance on this.

No-one's ever turned on people expressing a view - the issue is those views have not been expanded and explained. Generally those who are xenophobic tend to be racist, there is a small gap, but if you want to actually say that all xenophobes voted leave, then fine, I agree with you. And yes, there will be some sort of social apartheid taking place now. That is how disgusted a lot of Remainers are on the reasons that leavers voted that way. All through the debate we have asked for valid reasons for leaving, and there have been such few coherent arguments that it only shows that there is an underlying, disgraceful, reason for voting leave, or that they've been conned and won't admit it. The reason it has got to this is leavers inability to either admit they were conned or come up with a coherent argument as to wanting to leave the EU.

I agree, they are racist comments, and I'm assuming they are probably no better in context. However, not sure if she is thick or racist though.