Unbelievable Jeff

Now get me a half decent Labour leader, and they will get my vote.

Steve Baker criticising the pantomime of it all, and WILL NOT back May's deal. He's a *****, bit he at least has SOME values.

Do you know what's hypocritical? Pretty much the whole of the ****ing Tory party. Those that voted Leave must now see how much they were conned by this bunch of selve serving ****s, as they are now voting for the deal they told everyone was awful. This is the end of the Tory party for me - I will not vote that way again and will be rescinding my membership.

What's hypocritical about it? I don't think you're using the correct word.

No, the point is because they lied in the first one they shouldn't be listened to in the second one.

Why do you have to listen to the Politicians - I would say far fewer people would listen to the **** they peddle, but will have read and seen what has happened this time around to form their opinions.

I don't understand your point, all you're proving is that the vote is more democratically unsafe?

What?? Since you got your inheritance have you bothered doing any brain training, or are you just letting it go to mush? I always remember you as being a little bit brighter than you've come across recently.

Does that also say that Michael Gove is favourite? Just as an aside, you do understand what drives bookies odds, don't you?

Is Mosin Wes's other login?

Jeez, humble brag on the email addresses! Leave or remain has no bearing on whether you'd get excited about something. You are clearly getting quite excited about it, just due to the amount you're posting about it. Point me to a place where I "seem to think every one who voted leave now wants to stay and give NI away to the EU even though they voted to leave."

I don't think anyone here is getting excited about it, except you.

Then why didn't you just quote a bookmaker, rather than your paper of choice? In addition to that, Gove is the favourite on that link - and he isn't the leader of any party.

Not voted Tory for nigh on 10 years...when you voted for Corbyn, did you actually think about the ramifications for everyone else, or did you just think if yourself?

Oh, so now you'll believe what the Sun writes?

********, he's unelectable. You made a mistake, you're partly responsible for the issues now, ****ing own it you pussy.

Right to be forgotten, GDPR, innit - I have thought about this, don't worry.

Absolutely - although the path is also very difficult. Going through the Councillor route is very hard work, long hours, and for a pitiful top-up of your salary. A couple of my friend are Tory Councillors, and have been encouraging me to look into it, but with young kids it would end up taking a lot out of me, at a time I should be enjoying. Maybe in a few years time, but we'll see. Wage isn't good enough at MP level - £77k PA is a very average wage (same as a Finance Manager or similar) and the responsibility is far higher.

Imagine that - two unelectable leaders of the two main parties...

Not only that, those that voted for Corbyn voted for the Tory party to get to do pretty much what they wanted, carte blanche. They were warned at the time, but ignored it. They're as much to blame as those that voted for the Conservatives. Rees-Mogg has a chance, but he's perceived as too far right now to win an election, IMHO. Moderate Tories will not vote for him.

Well, this is where politics will go ****ing mental over the next few months. - If May resigns, we will end up having to take part in the European Elections, as it will take too long to get someone else (either Gove or Hunt) into the hot seat, and to set out their 'red lines'. - If May stays, and it looks like we're heading to a 'No deal' Brexit, there will be enough resignations from the Tory party to take them out of Government and will lead to a GE. - At the same time, Labour and Corbyn will be bleating for a GE - which they wouldn't win against Gove UNLESS they get rid of Corbyn (which they might well do). Keir Starmer will most likely take over, and a more moderate Labour party will be far more amenable to the general population - especially as Keir would run based on a second referendum (and he actually believes in it). - The ERG are effectively powerless. The 150 or so seats they control are far short of being able to do anything on their own, apart from get May's deal through, or getting rid of May. Anything beyond that is out of their control, and they know that.

Still trying to work out what concessions they're meant to make...

So, the EU have recognised that if May's deal fails, May will be gone, and Parliament will need time to discuss whether to go for a long extension to Art50, or revoke entirely. I think there is more of an appetite to get rid of May now, than pass her deal.

True story.