Unbelievable Jeff

I'm not saying it is, I'm saying they're the same thing in everything but name. Explain to me why they're not.

I'm not saying they can stop Boris being in the final two, they would produce a final 2 before the vote happened by joining forces, those two v Boris. I don't think YOU understand how this works.

As an aside, are you going to explain to me the difference between a FTA and the trade agreement we have within the transition period, or why Gove and Hunt cannot run together?

The EU won't agree to an FTA without the divorce payment, or if they do they'll make us pay more to get that access so they get their money back another way. We need that FTA more than they do.

I am also not saying it is one, I am saying that essentially it is one, but not in name. Explain to me what difference is between the two.

In what way - why can this not happen? Explain it to me.

If we are in the transition period, we have already left?

Gove would do well to hold out an olive branch to Hunt and run together. It's the only way to challenge Boris.

I will repeat - he hits the ball early - which is such a talent to have as a striker as keepers and defenders are off balance.

He's hitting the ball early, they are not set well - the point I was making.

No, what I have written 10-15 times is the fact that we cannot currently negotiate an FTA before we have left the EU. Just out of interest, how could you not class the transition period as an FTA? It is an agreement of how we're going to trade freely with the EU during a transition period. It is, for all intents and purposes, a FTA. How is it not?

Has anyone actually watched the below: He looks quick, strong, and he hits the ball early - which is such a talent to have as a striker as keepers and defenders are off balance. What's not to like?

Shurlock, I'm trying to explain it in a way the Brexiteers will understand it. It's not technically an FTA, but we benefit from free trade for the transition period.

We continue to trade freely with the EU during the transition period do we not? We continue how we trade now.

I don't know how many times I have laboured this point on this thread (I must have written about it around 10 - 15 times), yet the Brexiteers are not understanding what this part of the Brexit process is. The Withdrawal Agreement is a Free Trade Agreement. It is in place until a new trade agreement, most probably continuing to be FTA, is in place. If the UK leaves with no deal, we go onto WTO rules. If we decide not to pay the divorce bill, we will not get an FTA with the EU.

Duplicate.

FTA can only be agreed after we leave, and if we leave with No Deal, a FTA will not be on the cards from the EU's side until we agree to the WA.

Yep, but he doesn't have enough support, from inside or outside the party.

Yep, that's how I see it going. If he threatens to take us out with no deal, there will be a GE and we'll see a Corbyn led SNP/Lib Dem minority gov. Said it a couple of weeks ago. BJ will not be PM for long.

He'd be deposed, either from within, or from a cross party vote of confidence. Don't forget, PMs are essentially hamstrung in everything they do.

TBH, I'd quite welcome us sitting back and doing naff all for once.

Well, no, he didn't really the other day - he's gone back on that as a hard line. It's his aim, but he wouldn't guarantee it.

He won't get any of his mad **** through though. Be stopped by the SNP and Lib Dems, and if not them, the HoL.

And it would be good. My two "favourite" candidates - Stewart would be getting my ballot vote at the moment if he made it, so on the same ticket (Stewart as Chancellor I'd presume) they would definitely get it.

Yeah, listening to JOB too. We'll see, but can't really see it happening.