Unbelievable Jeff

But wouldn't it be fun to do that, and embarrass Pap at the same time?

But wouldn't it be fun to do that, and embarrass Pap at the same time?

Can you not forget about this forum and what happens on it? Because if you can surely you won't have a problem with meeting Pap?

I also think some photo's (whether you need to photoshop them or not) should also be produced.

I think you should do one anyway - perhaps you could write a review of the evening or something if it did happen?

I don't understand, you're both Saints fans, you both live in Liverpool, why don't you meet up for a beer? I also offered a similar chance to another poster on this board, and they turned it down too. It's as if they have something to hide.

Why won't Bazza meet up with Pap for a drink? They seem to be pretty similar in some of their views, so a bit of mutual masturbation whilst listening to Rage could be in order. "Balls on Parade" or sumink like that.

Fair enough, and I thinks that's just where we will end it. However I do think Bearsy makes a good point.

I think we should just end it here. We're not going to agree on this area, so we'll just agree to disagree.

Was he not Allah's son?

I didn't really mean to use them as a shield, it was more around the fact that I want to keep the flats and not sell them, even if it is for that reason.

But those would likely be qualities that are picked up earlier in life, not when they finish university. And benefit scrounging? Seriously? Offering a property at a lower rent so those on benefits have a place to live. This is where we disagree massively.

No, I would get 25% less renting to social than I would get on a private rent. I don't currently rent to social, I rent to private lets, but I may rent one of them out to social as there is a need in the area (Hounslow) and at least then I get a guaranteed income. Takes a lot of the stress away from it.

Either way Pap, it's not right to talk about other peoples kids, and the provisions you make for them during your life. One of my kids works, the other is far too young to. I just want to give them their first step onto the property ladder, as it is becoming more and more difficult to buy in and around London (yes, this is another debate to have - closely linked to this one).

Don't you dare talk about my ****ing kids, pr!ck.

Haha, yeah, nice one. All the righteous condemnation, none of the answers. You're just like Red Ken...

Wow, you really like dodging questions don't you?

If you hold such contempt for them, why are you linked-in to them. Seems a bit strange. I'm also surprised you subscribe to the thought that people should go to University, I would have thought you'd see it as elitist. I don't have a problem with offering the government help in relation to finding affordable social housing for those that can't afford it. Don't forget that if I did that I would lose around 25% of the revenue from the flat. What should I do, just leave it empty, whilst the Government searches for social housing that successive governments have failed to build? Surely that is more morally contemptible. So what should my next move be Pap, to wipe my social and moral conscience clean? Consider that I want to keep 2 to give to my kids and the 3rd to use the rental income for a pension for my other half when the time comes (her company has only just started doing pensions with the new legislation that's come in y'see)?

I think you're making the assumption that those I rent to can't afford to buy? Considering 2 of my flats are rented to people who need a home-away-from-home, and the 3rd to someone who is not interested in buying (or paying rent every month to be honest) I don't think I have anything to worry about.

And I expect you have no provisions to help your daughters out as you give all the money you save to the poor. Your lack of self-awareness is startling!

Yeah, but I'm not making tons of money off it.

I joined it so I could provide my children with properties when they are older, not for the paltry gains now (after tax I make about £900 a month on 3 properties, and probably spend around 20 hours a month dealing with and maintaining them). But thanks for your concern.

It's as if you haven't read any of this thread whatsoever. I am well aware it's gentrification, considering your grasp of economics on the rest of the thread I assumed you weren't aware of it. For a start, if the jobs are needed, then the market would cater for this, with higher wages being paid to ensure that the job can be done. Secondly, there is decent enough transport links from lower cost towns and cities that mean that they can travel in.

It is Ok to say "I don't know", you know? No-one will think any worse of you. Personally, the best way to regenerate an area is to get money into an area. A good way to get money into an area is to get working people with a wage into it. The run up of rent prices may well see an indirect regeneration effect on run down areas as those with a lack of money but a need to live there move there (see what has happened in Peckham, Mile End, Brixton etc, and to a greater degree Clapham).

Answer the question...