Unbelievable Jeff

I would say it's definitely a dig. Perhaps it was Poch who also didn't want to renew Jacks contract.

I keep on seeing that this 'dream' is being blamed as a reason that the players want to leave. Personally I think it's ridiculous that (a) Anyone believed that top 4 was a realistic ambition based on the fact that we were being financed by KL and not ML as previously. (b) That the players believed Cortese. If this was the case should they not have negotiated release clauses into their contracts if we didn't get European football? Personally I think it is a convenient excuse for the fans to beat the new board with, as they don't feel they can invest as much as Cortese wanted to. The real enemy here is Cortese who has misled the players and got them to believe in an unrelaistic dream. He was well aware of the money KL wanted to invest last Summer, yet sold this dream to Osvaldo, Lovren et al. I feel really sorry for this board. Never have I known a football board have to deal with such a difficult climate (Cortese's influence, Pochettino's influence, pathetically selfish players, kit **** up from NC etc). Fingers crossed they can get through this and bring in adequate replacements.

Well as you obviously don't understand what I'm getting it I'll explain it to you. The apathy from yourself and others on this thread is a representation of the attitude that footballers now have in relation to not completing their contracts, hence making it easier for them to justify their behaviour to themselves, fans, clubs etc. You're an enabler. But no, why don't you be a **** about it, that seems to be your raison d'être on this board.

100% this. Either the players aren't actually as good as the money we're getting for them (which I suspect they're not) or Pochettino was a failure on Moyes level last season.

Have to agree with CB Fry, the tactic you're using is what Bayern do to Dortmund, but Liverpool aren't doing that to us. The point is the players they are purchasing from us fit their system well.

As has been said a million times, the Echo likes to work to the detriment of the club. They have done for years hence I don't agree with anything the print unless corroborated elsewhere.

I believe the new kit is red and white stripes, however the stripes are not vertical but horizontal and the red stripes are thin.

The reason Shaw stood out was he was so far ahead physically than other players. As said, technically Targett is better and hopefully in the last year he has matured physically as well. I am excited for him, that's for sure.

****ing hell, I'd prefer to wear my Mum as a hockey mask...

Someone photoshop it onto the Ted Bates statue and you'll gave the funniest photo ever.

NC's final **** you to the Saints fans.

I dont know exact amounts but I believe there were installments due every 10 games played, end of year bonus based on league position, qualification for Europa etc. Think we still paid around 9m upfront though

Don't forget a lot of the transfer fee we paid was made up of performance related bonuses, so we won't have lost THAT much.

I think we need to stand our ground on this one. - Inform him that he won't be paid until he appears at training. - Inform him we will not be selling him to another Premier League club. - Inform him that the minimum we will accept is £16m for his services. This will get his agent to do the leg work and if he can't find a club he has a potential to lose 3 years wages by playing in the reserves, by which time no club will be interested in him of the standard that he wants. As an aside, was anyone not slightly worried about some of his performances in the second half of last year. There were a few games where I thought he had started to look like the player he was at Lyon. He may not be the amazing player that he is made out to be based on his performances of the first half of last year (not saying he is **** mind, just maybe not quite as good as made out).

Solent Uni.

As said previously, disgraceful behaviour from our players, but what do we expect when half the people on this thread are more than happy to see it happen.

Embrace it, just think of all the I told you so posts you can write pretty much until the end of time. Already we can dismiss someone's argument because they've been so ridiculous. Take Window Licker and his asset stripping comments for one.

I see you're going down the Saint Charlie route of embarrassing yourself this Summer.

It sounds to me like we won't have to, in which we should bank the remainder until Jan, or next Summer.

How do you define 'asset stripping'? It sounds to me like you don't know what it is.

This the same as you saying we were asset stripping

Yes, but you can't take football out of it, as that is the context it is in.

By acting out against the club that shows a lack of respect to the fans. You just don't get it, do you?

Lallana to be at Saints at beginning of September. I'm going to go and get my money back in flesh. All 40 pounds of flesh.

Oh yes, that'd be immense. Copy his format and send one back.