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Fair play. I would keep the tone to a few blokes having a pint, talking football...if possible

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/kevin-maguire-boriss-manifesto-shredded-21776040?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

The article you posted highlights guidelines on treating people with COVID 19..I think I made it clear, from what I have been told from someone on the front line, (who I work with), is that it aint working. Unsure your link disproves that. I say again, I was told by someone on the front line that despite the guidelines offered of treating this in conventional ways, that it generally ain't working and suggesting (that you did) that having more of a particular machine/unit/course of treatment is the reason we have more deaths that Germany etc is wrong. I admire you, no matter what the topic of the day, (climate change, terrorism, Brexit, national politics), you are some sort of expert...!! Amazing.

Who said it's my GF and who said they are a nurse? I am not even at home! Assumption right there. My spelling was to show how their unit calls it...like Elmo...it is Ekmo I will tell them to watch their ignorance

Well, I have someone sat next to me who works in ICU and they dispute your point. "EK-MO" et al that normally work for severe pneumonia is not working. So just having 1000s more of these machines is miles from the silver bullet!!!

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If antibiotics do not work (for pneumonia), intubation or non-intrusive intubation is normally the way forward as that gets the air in the lungs. "Ek-Mo" cleans CO2 from the blood but COVID is crippling people's lungs in the first place and causing severe issues for those with other serious health problems....and those who survive ICU will do well not to have lasting and in some cases severe scaring / damage to their respiritory system. On another note, my mum is one of the 1.5m and her first weekly food parcel arrived yesterday.

That is if the effects of the virus do not result in other health issues from killing you. Even if on 100% oxygen

Took 50+ years to pay it off That was with parts of an empire to

Angela Raynor has also tested positive. Interestingly, her tweets slamming Charles being tested ahead of NHS workers have all disappeared . Strange that!

You are a bit weird

Always seems a wasted question when a journo says..."can you guarantee....... If not, why not" On another note, remarkable effort that in just a couple of weeks, capacity has been made available that is equivalent to 50 hospitals!

is this a sarcastic post? various economy commentators are speculating (on the radio) that we will be 'fine' at some point down the line, possibly within a decade. No one is discussing this as everyone wants a piece from the Govt right now and they (we) will probably push back hard when the realities of this bailout become apparent. That is because we have NOT bought BT and dished out broadband to everyone and nationalised everything else, otherwise, the economy would probably be ruined!

Hancock has also tested positive

why do you think?

the PM apparently has tested positive for it

always one.... https://twitter.com/ameliamcd_/status/1243268412563955718?s=20

awesome, didnt think many people would be out clapping just now, but loads are. Fireworks being let off etc

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Self employed given unprecedented support However, looks like the chancellor will be going after some of them down the line.

Hopefully, you are right. There was an economics professor on the radio earlier, highlighting that it is wonderful that the govt are really leaning in and helping the vast majority in business and society (more then ever in our history), but this will come with a massive cost. He went to to say that should this level of shutdown go on into the Autumn, then the the effect on our economy will be 'catastrophic' at best. It wont go on that long will it? Probably see the lock down lifted/premier league football in May........we hope!

he probably means lay them off down the line. The fall out of all this will be economically horrendous, I imagine

You know its coming, you know Beth Rigby will hound the PM saying that such and such from Hackney, can't afford it. Given the staggering amount of money given to the vast majority of the population, a few quid for your own health should be the least you can muster (in the vast majority of cases)

you watch, the masses will kick off that it will cost a few quid....worth every penny IMO