Wes Tender

But it seems that the Met Police and the DPP recognise objectivity, whereas the Electoral Commission patently do not. Next you'll be claiming that the BBC wasn't biased against Leave. And you're a fine one to talk of objectivity as one of the forum's remoaners-in-chief. My record on the subject of Brexit stacks up pretty well against yours in terms of how it has developed.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/met-drops-investigation-into-brexit-campaigners-darren-grimes-and-alan-halsall-7crknqqt5 The Met Police have dropped the investigation instigated by the Electoral Commission into the funding of part of the Leave campaign during the run up to the Brexit referendum. It was clearly the case that the Remain campaign pursued the same tactics as Leave towards their funding, yet the Electoral Commission saw no reason to prosecute them in the same manner. This came as no surprise, because the Electoral Commission sought only to discredit the Leave side, stuffed full of remainers as it is, so its impartiality is totally discredited.

No, but your eyes tell you it isn't him. HTH

But not the highest rate of deaths per head of population. As mentioned earlier, Belgium tops that league, and also Spain and Italy have higher rates than us.

You haven't moved on. You're palpably still quaking with rage judging by your responses. By insulting our Prime Minister, you're also by extension insulting those who voted him into office. You might like to reflect that he achieved the biggest majority since Thatcher's in 87, a stonking great 80 seats. You're not very good at picking the winning side, are you? As for the rest of your rambling, the UK does not have the highest death rate in Europe. The highest rate is little Belgium, home of the EU, with Italy and Spain above us too. We do have the highest number of fatalities though. Whether we would have had a lower death rate had we not left the EU, well, who knows? As for Lowe and your assertion that he is "pretending" to be on "my" side, you have obviously forgotten that he stood as a candidate for The Referendum Party years ago, so he was for leaving the EU then, (as was I) This fighting for the rights of common people you speak of, is this the right of our citizens to only have their elected representatives make our laws, for them to decide also who can or cannot emigrate here, to have control over our territorial waters? I realise that these things don't matter to you, that you were quite happy to have Brussels in control of them, but a majority of the electorate voted against that. I repeat; you lose. get over it.

You're not very objective in your views are you? In fact you're all over the place. Now you're going all the way back to Rupert Lowe to try and prove a point. Is it not possible to have protested to Lowe over his running of our football club, and yet support his stance on Brexit? Are you incapable of making the leap of imagination to accept that? And no, I'm not a racist, despite the attempts of various remoaners like you implying that anybody who voted to leave the EU did so because they detested foreigners. As I suggested, move on, we've left the EU, your lot lost You're beginning to look ridiculous raking over ancient history.

Where did I suggest that you were a Corbynite? I was being sarcastic at your mention of "far right" and wondered where you drew your line on what constituted that description in your opinion. I also mentioned Corbyn as an example of what in my opinion constitutes a far left politician. As for your little article from the New Yorker, I stopped taking anything it said seriously when it described Leave EU as a far right nationalist organisation. Of course, anybody who voted to leave the EU is both far right and a racist, aren't they? Apart from the fact that I don't pay too much attention to what an American publication says about politics in the UK, any more than the Americans care a toss over what British media says about them, the article is so out of date, that it mentions the effect that Brexit had on May's government. Why don't you just accept that remain lost the vote, we have left the EU, so there really is little point on raking over old coals. Move on.

Define far right and provide names of those who you believe fill the brief. Is it anybody to the right of Corbyn?

I can crow about whatever I like, and it's a bit rich coming from you talking about democracy and unelected officials running the show when you're such a big fan of the EU. You can argue that our system of first past the post isn't ideal, and neither is the American one either, but despite their imperfections, they are a darned site better than most of the rest of the world, a lot of which doesn't have democracy at all.

It doesn't appear to register with you somehow, that somebody who gets elected cannot be unelectable. Whether Clinton achieved more votes than him is irrelevant, as it didn't change Trump becoming President, did it? By all means have a good moan about how life is unfair if it makes you feel better, just as you did constantly about Brexit, but it isn't for us to get involved in American politics, any more than it was for Obama to get involved in ours. Biden will not beat Trump, so if the Democrats want the next President to be one of theirs, he isn't going to deliver that for them.

Who can believe a single word uttered about the virus by the Chinese Communist Government? Of course they would love to shift the blame for infecting most of the rest of the World with their virus on the Americans.

Trump might be a bit eccentric at times, but I don't think that senility is particularly an issue. Anyway, it is up to the American electorate to decide on who they vote for, and like here, Party preference is also a large part of it too.

That is a matter of opinion as to whether they are equally unelectable. Trump is obviously electable, as he has been elected, and has the advantage of being the incumbent President and the known quantity, like him or loathe him. It's a sad state of affairs when the USA Democrats can only come up with Biden as a candidate, given his age and mental state. If he is their Corbyn, isn't there a Starmer anywhere in sight?

You think that Biden will beat Trump? Not only is he ancient, but he's losing his marbles.

Did I put a timetable on it, Timmy? No, I thought not. Whether the EU talks are concluded by Christmas doesn't worry me. We will either have a FTA or we won't. I'm not bothered about which one it is. And yes, the USA is much more dynamic and smart than the EU, who took 8 years to negotiate a trade deal with Canada. As to those that believe that we would be shafted by a deal with the USA, why would that be? We don't have May and Robbins negotiating for us any more. There is no onus on us to accept a deal that doesn't suit us, as Barnier and the EU are currently finding out.

I wonder whether there is going to be a chorus of dissent from the usual former remoaner suspects, stating that any trade talks cannot possibly take place until the Chinese virus has passed, as nothing else is important. Or is that only trade talks with the EU that cannot take place during the lockdown?

I agree that it is foolish and wrong to abuse Chinese nationals for a disease that originated in their country. A lot of the blame rests with their Communist government. Perhaps you should watch the interview of the Chinese Ambassador to England by the BBC's Stephen Sackur and tell me whether you consider him racist for accusing the Chinese government of attempting to deny that the virus originated there. The ambassador denies that it started there, claiming that there were reports of it elsewhere beforehand. Laughable really.

I wasn't personally offended or thought that we had been racially abused when this country had what was described as "the English disease" when applied to any of football hooliganism, or economic stagnation in the 1970s, or indeed other ailments both physical, mental or economics based. No doubt aintforever was seething with indignation though.

Where do you think it originated? Are you Xi Jinping or something? Do please explain how naming a pandemic after the country of origin is racist

It turns out that the Panorama documentary showing several NHS doctors and nurses slamming the government's handling of the Chinese virus pandemic, didn't bother to inform its' viewers that most of them were members of leftie political groups. I wonder whether any of them had an agenda of attempting to discredit the government? Should we therefore dismiss everything these people said on the grounds that it was stilted propaganda? Is the BBC biased towards the left? Surely not. It must have been a pure coincidence that these people chosen to comment during the programme were members of left-wing organisations. What were the chances of that happening on such a respected programme as Panorama, which has never previously shown any bias whatsoever against the Conservatives? I'm totally mystified as to how this could possibly have come about.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/now-who-s-cherry-picking-michel-barnier- An excellent article demonstrating that in the transitional period negotiations for a FTA, it is now firmly Barnier and the EU that are intransigent when it comes to offering any sort of concessions towards being reasonable in their stance, by making demands that are not expected of other trade deals with other Countries. Undoubtedly the EU must recognise that the tables are now completely turned on them and that the UK is not about to blink when it comes to extending the TP. All we have to do, is wait until 1st July when the deadline to extend the TP expires and the EU will face a FTA by 31st December, or we are out on WTO. The article suggests that by refusing to offer the same terms on a FTA that it offered to other countries, that the EU is failing in its obligation to use best endeavours to conclude a fair FTA under the terms of the WA. I believe the time has come for us to make it clear now, that if there is no satisfactory FTA, then the £39 billion agreed by May in the WA will not be paid.

Barnier doesn't seem to have woken up to the new reality since December and the stonking majority that Boris received from what was substantially a Brexit election. The former pro-EU PMs are now silenced. Many of those who appointed themselves delegates representing a fifth column pro-remain Parliament visiting Brussels to plead to be allowed to continue suckling on the EU teat, have now been ejected from the House along with the partisan speaker. Barnier needs to acknowledge the strength of the mandate that Boris now has to negotiate the sort of deal that he wants for us, or to walk away to WTO terms if it isn't available. From the talks this week, Barnier continues as if nothing has changed, refusing to acknowledge that we negotiate as sovereign equals, as if we are somehow the supplicant begging for a deal, when it is they who have the considerable trade surplus to protect. They are refusing to grant us an equivalent FTA to that already agreed with other countries and insisting that an extension to the transition period would mean us paying an extra sum into the EU slush fund, even though we have passed it into law that we will not extend beyond the 31st December. Did he somehow miss that? Also, he has a fondness for pointing out that the clock is ticking, as if time isn't running out for them too. They would like us to extend the transition period because they say that there isn't enough time to negotiate a FTA before then, but it is they who have set this timetable of the end of June during which a request to extend the TP would have to be made. On that basis, when the ticking clock chimes when that deadline passes and we have not asked for an extension, it will finally become clear to Barnier and the EU that they have just 6 months to get real on an acceptable FTA, or we will be trading together on WTO terms. The sticking points in the negotiations, not surprisingly, are the fisheries question, the regulatory level playing field and the legal jurisdiction covering the future relationship. If we stick to our guns on all three, the EU either accept that situation, or there really is no point in discussing it any further. I wonder whether at some point in the near future, whether we shouldn't just give them an ultimatum, that unless they accept that those three things are not on the table, there really is no point in discussing anything else and we will only return to the negotiating table when they accept that.

People are labelled/pigeon-holed by what they say and believe everywhere in politics. As politics covers most facets of everyday life, so nearly anybody can be categorised by their opinions within the political compass. You yourself have pigeon-holed Hypochondriac based on his posts and no doubt do the same with other posters too, as does everybody else. You have also insinuated that as he is a little more right wing, that he is therefore less sensitive to what the extremists left and right say. That's pretty judgemental of you, and you also "don't engage" with those using the word "lefty". Well done. This sort of intolerance of opinions on the basis that they are expressed using commonplace language which enables you to assume yourself superior to those who use it, is a classic lefty characteristic trait, and makes you seem a rather humourless and over-sensitive prig.

I thought that you were brighter than that, Timmy. You appear to have not realised the difference between the differing sets of circumstances surrounding the two contests. Most pundits labelled this last election the Brexit election. Even Labour tried to excuse their poor performance by blaming having got their stance on Brexit wrong. So comparisons between the two elections are largely pointless as an exercise in comparing the performances of Thatcher v Foot compared with Boris v Corbyn.

You might be struggling, but that doesn't entitle you to generalise on behalf of everybody else. It obviously doesn't occur to you that simply by winning the election by such a resounding margin was beneficial to the electorate when the alternative was a Marxist Corbyn government, but carry on dismissing the election victory as of no importance in the grand scheme of things if that's what floats your particular boat. Clearly you aren't a Conservative voter, so your position of not being capable of acknowledging anything praiseworthy about Boris in recent events isn't in the least bit surprising. You're probably still feeling very sore at the way that the Brexit situation is developing and the thrashing that Boris dealt to Labour and the Lib Dumbs in the election.