Wes Tender

*Yawn* It's not fair, the leave voters are thickos, gullible, naive, the vote was rigged by the Ruskies, the leave campaign told lies on the side of the bus, fiddled their expenses, etc, etc. The Remain campaign was a model of probity and integrity, all the statistics and economic forecasts put out by them were cautiously underestimated, nobody lied or twisted the truth, and it was an uphill battle defending their pro-Europeanism against the might of the establishment elite and the pro-leave media. 🙄 The Referendum was just over four years ago. We left the EU at the end of January. Remain lost. Get over it and stop winging. If you're still upset in a decade's time, you might get an opportunity to vote again, providing that the EU still exists.

Anybody who naively believes that polling methods and results are an accurate gauge of national opinion, should watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA I've posted it several times before, but Tamesaint might benefit from watching it again.

Where has anybody disagreed with me? What a fatuous reply, but what I've come to expect from you. Of course the opinion pollsters will believe that polls are significant at any time and on any subject. It is their business. No polls = no income. Surely you realise that, don't you? 🙄

I expect that LD probably posted that poll just to contradict the other one. Regarding your "serious" question, then there are several methods that a government might employ to gauge its popularity, polls being just one of them. But as I pointed out, it isn't even anywhere close to mid-term at the moment, and in any event, the outcomes of the Chinese pandemic and the Brexit negotiations and the consequences of how both are handled will have an impact on polling returns, so it is really stupid to attach too much significance on them at this very early stage. In any event, my cynicism towards the flaws in polling, the size of sample, geographic demographic of those polled, potential bias inherent in the question, has been stated several times before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXArKzXEQvI A goal from Ings and a superb free kick by J W-P against Watford when they played at St Mary's. A bit of deja vu

I suggest that you read what I said in my last post on polls and try and concentrate really hard and let it slowly penetrate. The realisation will then dawn on you that the same thing applies to polls expressing the opinion that show the Government performing well or poorly; that is that they are all pretty irrelevant when there are four years to go before the only poll that really matters, the next general election.

A very solid and entertaining performance from the lads today. Hard to criticise any of them and praise all round. Bednarek is excused the own goal and it was just one of those balls across the face of the goal that needed him to attempt a clearance, but very easy to get wrong. Smallbone put in a good shift and Hasenhuttl timed Armstrong coming on to replace him at a good time, where Watford were in the ascendancy and his fresh legs and forward threat changed the balance again in our favour. Vestergaard had a really good match alongside Bednarek and Kyle W-P put in a good shift with Bertrand out wide. Romeu also replaced Hojbjerg well as the other selection change and the team played well as unit all over the pitch. Two great goals from Ings puts him in the frame for the golden boot for the season, only one goal behind Vardy, and J W-P produced a stunning goal from a free kick which left Foster rooted to his spot. Redmond also hit the post, and Adams came close to his very first goal for us in the PL . I hope that Hasenhuttl gives him some more match time, now that we are absolutely safe, although it isn't impossible with a few more wins that we could grab an 8th place entry into Europe. More play like this, less play like at Arsenal, and it just could be a long shot chance.

Can't get too excited about Northern Exposure, but I accept that Southern Exposure is strictly regulated on what they can show.😉 Either Montalbano or Young Montalbano are both very good and the subtitles aren't a problem. It helps with my Italian, although the Sicilian dialect is interesting sometimes.

What exactly is the significance of this poll when there is over 4 years until an election has to take place? It isn't anything abnormal for the incumbent party and leader to be behind in the polls in the early stages of a new government, provided that Corbyn isn't the opposition leader. And then it isn't normal for the government to be facing anything akin to the Chinese virus either. A lot of the polling decisions will be based on that situation alone and many will have been influenced to vote Starmer based on the government's handling of the pandemic, not having the faintest idea whether Starmer would have handled it differently/better. Instead of wetting yourself with excitement at this extremely early stage of the current parliament, I suggest that you wait another four years before assessing the performance and electability of Starmer/Labour.

Apologies for the delay in replying. I am still categorised as a Registered user with three posts a day, although I have made two further requests to have my status changed to Full member having paid the £5 subscription last August. I thought that this statement made clear what my opinion was on what was likely to happen. I don't believe for one minute that we will attempt to produce a fudge by weakening our stance on any other of those three red lines. If there is any fudging to be done it will be on the EU side. As things stand, we are headed towards WTO. However, the EU are past masters of brinkmanship, and although the deadline for extending expires in three days, the next deadline to get some sort of deal arranged with time to implement it before the 31st December, is October. So the EU won't give way on anything until then, and they and the remoaners will orchestrate project fear on steroids regarding the dire consequences of us leaving without a FTA. They will become more and more desperate as we get closer to that date, and all Frost has to do is stand firm. Plastic: I''ll reply to your post here, as I only still have the three posts a day. Examples of where our standards are higher than the EU's:- https://facts4eu.org/static/media/factsheet_11_workers_rights_v11.pdf

Agree totally. Nothing riles me as much at St Mary's as the back four passing sideways and backwards, especially when we are chasing the game when behind on the score. Last night we were punished by it tragically for us, but comically and humiliatingly for anybody else watching the match. The team was capable of at least a draw last night, if not a win and yet we had to gift wrap a goal to Arsenal in such a bizarre fashion that I am still seething over it a day later.

Finally, the penny drops with a deafening clang, it isn't up to you to tell us what we want, Frau Merkel. We have already told you clearly what we want. We want to be treated as a third country and given a similar trade deal to those that have already been granted by the EU to Canada, S. Korea and Japan. As the EU trade with us is far greater than it is with those three, one would have thought that a deal on those terms would have been perfectly feasible, without the EU insisting on continuing to plunder our coastal fisheries waters, impose their protectionist rules on us and have their courts determine the outcome of any resultant disputes. As an independent sovereign third country, it isn't that we don't want to have rules that compare with those of the EU, it is that we will no longer accept that the EU sets those rules and we are forced to abide by them. Of course, in many cases we have higher standards in those areas than the EU anyway. And if we choose at any stage in those areas to introduce measures that diverge from your rules, Frau Merkel, in order to make our economy more competitive and successful, then that is partly why we voted to leave the EU.

Apologies for the delay in replying. Under the new board, I am restricted to only three posts a day, as it has me as a Registered member rather than a Full Member, despite me paying my membership last August, so it should still be current. I had written to Saintsweb using the contact memo on at least three occasions pointing this out over the months without success, but as it had allowed multiple posts previously, I had let it slide. Now that I am disallowed the multiple posts that I ought to be entitled to, I have contacted Saintsweb again today. As far as I can see, the red lines on fisheries, the "level playing field" and the disallowance of the jurisdiction of the ECJ are the three things that we will not compromise on. Barnier believes that a deal can be done if they offer something on fisheries to gain a concession on the level playing field, or something in that area to get concessions on fisheries, but it is slowly penetrating that we will not budge on any of the three positions. Therefore, either the EU accept that, or there is no FT deal. For myself, whereas since the Brexit vote I had wanted a FT deal, I am now totally ambivalent about it and would prefer no deal rather than one where there were compromises on any of our three red lines.

Thanks, my voucher email also just arrived now

Bulldog Frost's tweets today don't appear to back up any wet dreams the FT might have over the UK doing much in the way of compromising our position in these talks. https://twitter.com/davidghfrost?lang=en

I never received this offer. I have just emailed the club to ask why not. It would have been nice to watch the match live tonight.

I'll await tujjuk's response eagerly. Whilst he's about it, perhaps he can explain away all the other anarchist crap on their website, which makes Corbyn look like a moderate. I've nothing against the principle that Black Lives Matter equally to those of anybody else's, but BLM's website shows that it is an organisation with much more revolutionary aims than just bringing about racial equality.

Today is of course an auspicious day in the Country's history - the fourth anniversary of the referendum and the vote to leave the EU. A very good reason to celebrate with a bottle of fizz tonight.

in-breads? Are you saying that they are crusties?

I agree with this. Norwich had to win games like this to have any hope of staying up, so they piled on the pressure right from the start and caught us on the back foot. As you say, around the 15 minute mark, we began to hit our stride and started to keep possession and gradually we took control of the match and improved minute by minute until the end. In the second half, we were playing some good entertaining football and the score could have been a couple of goals more, particularly if Obafemi had the awareness to have passed to a team mate in a scoring position, instead of shooting himself. Tactically, I love the way we play now, the high press in numbers winning possession in dangerous areas. What a bargain Ings has proven to be. At the start of the season, I had reckoned that he was a poor buy, and would probably spend much of the season in the treatment room, but playing constantly has made him less injury prone and his fitness levels are great, especially after the lockdown. His class shone through; his value to our team this season has been immense. What would he be worth now? Several players in the team have improved this season under Hasenhuttl, notably Ward-Prowse, Stephens and Redmond. Whether he can also make Obafemi and Valery better players remains to be seen.

No. If the left wing media wanted to target people in the political sphere on those grounds, then they would have plenty of far easier targets than Cummings in the Labour Party, you know, the metropolitan bubble champagne socialists. I've already stated my opinion that the left wing media circus feeding frenzy was almost totally based on their hatred for one of the main architects of the Tory strategy that won the referendum and gained Boris his stonking majority in the last election. Be honest and admit it that you loathe him for exactly the same reasons, as is plain from every post you make regarding the Tory Party. You're just the archetypal Guardianista, even used to work for them, so you're fooling nobody.

My thoughts exactly. Even posters here on a football forum have demonstrated more imagination in the questions than the UK's most illustrious left wing journos did yesterday. As they all hate Cummings with a vengeance because of the part he played in getting us out of the EU and helping Boris win the election with that stonking majority, one would have expected them to devise a joint strategy to bring about his downfall by coordinating the questions they were to ask beforehand. Too late now. They had their chance and blew it. As I said, none of them laid a glove on him. Just asking the same questions of Boris shortly afterwards just made them look pathetic.

I can sense your pain, what with how political events have transpired these last several months, which is causing you to lash out at me and others over the political divide from you. You have my sympathy. It must be hard for you being so wrong about Brexit, the outcome of the election, the UK finally gaining the upper hand in the IP negotiations with a competent negotiator at the helm, and now this.

The sense of anti-climax and dismay at how this press conference went is palpable on here. But then on here isn't particularly representative of out there, thank God. Nothing much here to feed the left wing media frenzy on the face of it, so it won't be long until they move on to attempting to dish the dirt on one of their other targets.

Well, as far as I'm concerned having watched the questions aimed at Cummings, the media failed to lay a glove on Cummings. Unless something he said proves to have been a lie, then I see no particular reason for him to resign. There has been a witch hunt from the left wing media, apparently a lot of disinformation stirring the pot because the left hate Cummings for Brexit and the Boris election victory. The past few days have brought about a kangaroo court verdict that he was guilty, but now with luck the whole episode will be fish paper wrapping in a week and we can move on to more important stuff.