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I’m comfortable with watching championship footy but If we go down we won’t be coming back up not with the unambitious, uninspiring, cynical assholes currently running our football club.

So basically as reported earlier Spartak didn’t want to let him go really so have never really intended to sell this window and have now made their excuse and we’ve been chasing a ghost yet again just like the horrific alderweireld saga Or it’s all been bull anyway and the intention has always been to sit on as much of the 75mil for as long as possible. Unambitious assholes slowly dragging us down from the top is how it has looked for a couple of years now.

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Then relegation will be worth it. 'Lack of ambition' has been a code phrase used by nearly all our leavers for several seasons. The only way to interpret it is that the person in charge making the decisions is taking the club in the wrong direction. Its not just one or two bitter managers or brief high quality players it has also been 'loyal' long serving players like Fonte who have eventually had enough. I don't 100% buy the whole his head was turned story. How can you motivate a team to success when you tell them there is no point and its basically impossible to compete for any meaningful honours as the core philosophy of the club... Ralph even came out and said that publicly as much in recent statements. Ridiculous given the recent history with Leicester. Love him or loathe the little bastard that was Cortese, at least he dreamed big and believed in what he was selling, and that is the most important thing in the leaders of any competitive business.

Don't know about him but I certainly am. I'm actually well up for competitive football with passionate fans home and away. I miss the atmosphere of the lower divisions and the excitement from never really knowing what result is coming as it is so close and competitive. Completely selfish and don't get me wrong I love that Saints have had some awesome years in the top league, if it continues then great but I won't shed a tear for not being part of the 'Premier League', it is all a farce anyway.

A broken cock is always right eventually... Note: post double checked for accuracy

We need to stop pandering to what our Senior Players want as on the whole our senior players think they Are a lot better than they are and half want to **** off at the slightest sniff of a pay increase. That is the problem with this team. The mentality and teamwork is completely eroded. A large part of this is that the club message is we accept mediocrity. How many players and managers who have left need to say the words ‘no ambition’ before it becomes clear where the problem has been growing ever since Poch’s departure.

manager needs to have a word wtf is going on

ward prowse and davis too negative, one needs to make way for lemina ideally

Whelk you are right to some extent but unfortunately loyalty is bloody expensive for the average fan these days. In my own experience I may already have a ticket to every home game but it still costs more than that to attend a match and when the prospect is very likely to be continued drudgery with the possible odd exception, it becomes incredibly hard to remain motivated and passionate. When you buy any product you expect some sort of return, i'm definitely not asking to win but I'd like to be mildly entertained at a minimum, unfortunately our play style on the whole negates the competition, defensively we are fantastic but we also are unable to spark offensive attacks. When you add in the incessant disappointing backroom activity at the club, transfers out, messed up deals verging on embarrassing, dodgy PR clips and so on over the last few years it just starts to all take its toll. If someone asked me now whether I'd like us to carry on as we are and scrape mid-table or to tank and get relegated, I'd snap their hand off at the second option. Selfish perhaps but I'd rather fork out to watch Saints play real footy with passionate players rather than safe moneyball with egos who only turn up for the Sky premier fixtures. Each to their own though. I'd also suggest that 'goal drought' is rather underestimating the problem we appear to have up front, its pushing on a year now.

The way I feel about watching Saints at the moment is about the same way I feel about watching England (and they seem to give similar displays). Rarely excited about watching it but continue to do so out of duty unless I have something else more important I can do. Season ticket footy used to be a big priority but will take it or leave it at the moment. At times recently it feels like an inconvenience that I've got to go sit in St Mary's for 90 mins on a Saturday. There is something very wrong when it was a highlight of my week for the previous eight years. The strangest thing is I'm not mourning it, it was great fun and now it is really not. To be honest I just feel a bit 'meh' about the whole thing now.

We're going to soon find out if he has any backbone. He's going to need a pretty good one to carry his head back into Saint Mary's after his antics this summer. Hope he does and we can all get on with enjoying the rest of the season.

streams up at last on saints fc site

****s sake saints player. Gonna have to go sit in the bloody car for two hours now lol

Has anyone been able to get the saints fc official radio commentary working through the website. Just blank for me

I feel there's is a lesson about to be taught and I completely back the club in teaching it if it can be done. Fingers crossed for Hoedt being completed and Van Dijks value on the wane from that point afterwards.

Yeah (If we keep VVD or adequately replace as I said). Its a season prediction mate, some people were doing it before we even kicked a ball. I watch the majority of Saints matches in person and I sat through some utter predictable and uninventive ****e last year, we rarely got going or strung passes together like we did yesterday, but despite that we still managed to finish where we did and better than I predicted (think I had us 10th). I think this year based on what I saw of us in game one, what I have watched of other teams that would be around us (Everton, West Ham, Leicester) and also of teams that would be considered to be in the top 6 (Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool), it is going to be wide open again, and last years return to the 00's looking top 6 was the anomaly because the teams in the best of the rest category were all ****e at once. The top 6 teams are going to be dropping points to teams all over the place as everyone will step their game up against them as usual, there will be a good opportunity for an upset in the top 4 again this year, and we have the capability to be the team that achieves it.

going to post before reading thread. excellent football,exciting match,chalk and cheese from last season. Some great cohesion, fantastic pressing for nearly a full match and it's only game one. Swansea knew they couldn't win from 20 mins onwards and fair play they held us out. Last season we looked done after 10 mins of pressure in every game. Defense strolled it for most of the game but read it well on the whole when challenges were mounted albeit scarcely. Our attacking play was very inventive and no where near the predictable boloks we served up last season. It's game one and we already look like we are playing well, think we are going to have one hell of a season based on that. If we keep van dijk or adequately replace I think we are in with a very good shout of a record prem finish. Although in short I could happily watch that every week and feel I'm getting my money's worth. There will be goals for sure and there's gonna be some beauts for sure, there was a few efforts today that were a whisker off being classics and it is game one.

Don't know the team well enough to say but just because Middlesbrough beat them doesn't define who they are. Maybe they had a **** game then. I wasn't there last night however and didn't even get to watch the whole match so probably wrong but of what I did see the passing, ball control, off the ball movement and first touch was extremely decent they seemed to have some decent pace and composure on their wingers too. Their goals weren't half bad either.

opposition looked very very decent, if they play like that all season then they are worth a few bob on reaching very high end of bundesliga.

Watched it again. I hated football when I was a kid, decided to go again when I was 14 because some mates asked me to go along. Matty magic made me a lifelong footy obsessive that day til now. May be controversial to say but the next player that has had that effect on me is Ricky Lambert, had that same magic quality for us that whenever he got the ball, free kicks, penalties, open play, even in a defensive midfield position he could pull out something magical that would change the game for the better. My enduring memory of Lambert isnt the countless goals we celebrated but it is a long almost impossible diagonal crossfield ball on the turn that he played to schneiderlin if I recall correctly. Think Ricky would have a much higher status amongst fans now if he'd not gone but you can only say fair enough he had to give it a go at Pool for his own sake. hopefully i get to see another player of their quality again in a saints shirt.

I'd like to see our club show they have a spine for once. If you are publically going to say 'he is not for sale' and then report the interested club to the Premier League it is the most cowardly and spineless act possible to then turn round and give him over to the same people you were angry at within a month of the incident because they wave money at you. All it will do is tell all the other players you just have to kick up a stink as soon as you want to go and make it super public. For the sake of the future they need to put their foot down as it would be another PR cockup for the club, adding to other incidents from previous seasons, to let Liverpool have him now (albeit a profitable one in the short term). My personal opinion on Van Dijk is that he is great and all but if he wants to go then sell him especially if the money is good, however I think because of the events that have occurred so far they have no choice but to show that the club have some cojones and keep Virgil at least until January.

1st: Liverpool away Boxing Day: Brighton home 28th December: Everton away Easter Weekend: Tottenham Home Last game: Swansea Home FA Cup third round: Sunderland League Cup second round: Man Utd.

Games so they can hold their hands up and say to the fans 'look we tried'. Bull**** I don't trust them anymore when it comes to talking to the fans, they treat us with contempt most of the time. Sell the damn player like you always intended and buy some more good ones in for much cheaper, that is what we are good at, just be ****ing honest about it.

There's been only two teams who have comfortably looked a much better side than us that we don't have a fair fight with and this is Chelsea and Tottenham. The others when we have our full team are all beatable. We will need a lot of luck to go our way to get points at the bridge tonight I fear.