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The Labour party nicking Tory policies- where have we seen that before ? So, when the Tory party come up with a manifesto that matches the ideals they seem to have held previously, but now seem to have forsaken, they may well earn my vote

But would you accept the principle that those who can afford to pay a little more as a contribution to society, ( tax, etc to ensure the welfare system, NHS, etc, can be sustained ), should do so ?

But you see, I myself, ( and I would have thought Bridge To Far and quite a few others on here ), would similarly classify ourselves as hard-working types who have laboured, ( no pun intended ), to improve our lot, and that of our families, having 'got off our arses', gained qualifications, and worked our way up to senior, comparitively well paid positions. This has not, however, altered our basic view that the core principles of Socialism are intrinsically correct, and form a much better basis for a humane, inclusive, society.

So in that case we can forget about charities, foreign aid, and hospices, and start euthanasia for those who might lower the genetic strength of the spcies ? I know that is not what you mean, but it is a logical outcome of that train of thought. ( Mind you, why should Shrek Rooney and that harridan Coleen be allowed to breed, surely that is an evolutionary dead-end ? )

Maybe it's time to remove the word ALTRUISM from the dictionary ?

So all we are left with is the politics of greed :mad: Loadsamoney and the yuppies inherit the Earth

According to ALL the eye witnesses at the inquest, J C DeM was not given any warning - the armed officers, who did not identify themselves, rushed onto the train, pushed him to the floor and fired several bullets into his head at very close range. The witnesses all believed the armed men to be terrorists until after the killing had occurred.

But the rules say his constituency is NOT an 'inner London' one; they are the only seats to which this allowance does not apply.

It only shocks Daily Mail readers because they only do such things on Sunday night, always with the lights off, and only in the one approved position - and they NEVER enjoy it.

Named Blondi in tribute to another well known GS ?

I don't discriminate, get shot of the whole rotten bunch, blue, red, or yellow, and start again once WE have set up a new set of rules for them operate by. 'Traditional' Labour supporters do feel slightly disenfranchised by Bliar and Brown, they moved to the right to chase the Daily Mail reading middle-Englanders. I am slightly suprised that there don't seem to be many Tories feeling their right-wing agenda isn't being served as Cameron moves his bunch similarly close to the centre to chase the same minority swing voters, leaving them to follow Stanley and consider the UKIP / BNP option. I am all in favour of proportional representation; if only 70% of the elctorate vote, 30% of the seats at Westminster should be left vacant.

Started in 1981 outside RAF Greenham Common.

In reality, Stanley is a 43 year-old former crustie, who spent his teenage years protesting at Greenham Common, hasn't had a bath for years ( because he doesn't need one ), and lives off the mould on top of the yoghurts he pulls out of Sainsbury's rubbish bins. And he only ever votes for the Green Party.

I know of a rozzer who saved up his overtime during the miners' strike and bought himself a new house for cash.

Maybe we will execute our democratic right and withold our vote. It is likely that in my constituency, a Tory marginal, the following candidates will stand ; the current sitting Tory ( Not a chance, though he actually is a local ) a nu-Labour acolyte ( ditto given current circumstances ) a Lib-Dem ( yeh, as if ! ) a UKIP facist ( but I am not Stanley ) Why vote when there is nobody you can agree with, surely that would be hypocritical ?

Actually no I am not, but then again not all students are c@nts are they ? I don't disgree with the main point of this thread, but you, predictably, had to get your cheap dig in.

Stu; the armed forces are public servants, paid for by the working man's taxes, and also, how do you think these subsidies will be funded ? When the students are reaping the rewards of their education, their taxes provide for these services. Or maybe they should be permitted to opt out of paying for military adventures theyn don't agree with, and the spreading of democracy at the point of a gun ?

Stanley, I have to say that I have found something on which I completely agree with you.

Ah - got you there ! This Government IS most definitely centre-right, not many true socialists left, unfortunately. Bliar ( sic ) was the true inheritor of Maggie's legacy. Nu-Labour, Tory Lite, Different colour, same old sh1te.

yes !

Or then again maybe we all just agree that they are all robbing barstewards, regardless of their particular political colour, and start campaigning for an open and fully accountable Parliament.

Nah, stay Tory, you can make just as much : "( The Tory leader in the Welsh assembly ) was heavily criticised after it emerged in a breakdown of assembly members' allowances that he, and fellow Conservative AM Alun Cairns, had claimed for portable music players worth a combined £398. Mr Bourne also claimed more than £5,000 over the past two years for his bathroom and £120 to buy trouser press." "Meanwhile, the Sunday Mail reveals Scots Tory MEP John Purvis has admitted paying £120,000 of tax payers money to a firm he owns. Millionaire landowner John Purvis funnelled the taxpayers' cash through a company, he admits to being a partner in. He claimed £120,000 in expenses for six members of staff." "And in another revelation, it was reported that Sir Robert Atkins, a Tory MEP and former minister, used his parliamentary expenses to fly to his son's wedding in America." "Den Dover, the party's chief whip in Brussels, quit over the weekend after paying his wife and daughter a reported £758,000 over nine years through a company for secretarial and support services. On Thursday, Giles Chichester, the Conservative leader in the European Parliament, resigned his post after it emerged he transferred more than £400,000 of staff expenses to a private family company." "North West MEP Sajjad Karim, who recently defected from the Liberal Democrats, admitted paying his wife £26,000 a year as an office assistant while she was a primary school teacher." "Tory MPs Sir Nicholas and Ann Winterton broke Parliamentary expenses rules by claiming rent on a £700,000 flat they had bought outright." "Senior Tory MP Jacqui Lait has claimed more than £100,000 in second-home allowances on her constituency base nine miles from Westminster." " Tory MP Bob Neill claims the second-home allowance for a flat in his constituency just over 30 minutes' drive from Westminster. ............ Mr Neill bought his flat in Chislehurst, a sought-after part of his constituency, in 2007 for £365,000. He also owns a flat in Poplar, East London - about six miles or 20 minutes' drive from Westminster. In 2006-07 he claimed £22,110 Additional Costs Allowance - the maximum for that year - even though he was elected in a by-election three months into the Commons' financial year." To quote Bruce Forsyth "Good game, good game". Over to you, JB. :D:D

Did you hear Alan Green on 5Live's commentary for the Slovakia game say "Parents, prepare to be ripped off" ?

1) Which version of Windows is it, XP or VISTA ? 2) Was the account your daughter was using the main system administrator account ? 3) If XP, and she was not using the admin account, had the admin password actually been set ? In my experience most XP systems don't have this set as most peeps don't realise that the account is there.

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