Barry Sanchez

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26955823 Shocked about this, not too sure where Tranmere go from here.

I suggest General Sports then, it proves subliminally we allow the bigger clubs to do as they please, if I put up Rochdale have sacked their manager it would be carted off straight away, modern fans hey, they probably still have their United tops somewhere.

So Barry has been correct after all this time then? He is good that Barry and he sure knows his football. He was even the first who used "glass ceiling" all that time ago, a legend who has never turned away from danger.

How is this Saints related? Lounge please, I am surprised as the usual punters in here usually pull anything deemed negative and not Saints related into the Lounge, bias by any chance as its Man Utd or possibly the person?

Lounge, Saints related?

For improving the side yes of course but as a person representing the club no.

But Wes we are correct, get over it.

All delusions never the less.

I supposed after all this time Glasgow its pleasing to see people coming around.

For saying such truthful things as that (I have since being on here) you will become an outcast, be safe in the knowledge though you are correct and have your eyes wide open.

I am sure I could trawl up from October time some delusional arrogant posts about how Liverpool were a spent force, our midfield is superb and how we could seriously challenge for a European place. It was never going to happen and the people who thought it would dont know this club and the actual size of clubs they were facing to do such a thing, it was and will laways be absolute ********, unfair as we cant achieve it yes but never the less a bull**** dream. We are not bankrolled anywhere near the level required to even challenge for one season without European football for the upper echelons consistently, do these newer fans actually understand football and how it works and for most part always worked.

And I believe I have said many times it wont simply happen, it matters not that her company have billions, many owners of fooball clubs can make that claim, we are not loaded and never have been, money was spent to do a job and it worked but to reach the next level takes 100's of millions over a long period of time, there has never been any indication that this would happen or any real explantion of hos the Champions League place would be acheived without it being laughable.

In the last summer transfer window, dont be soft.

I will add Liverpool spent £48 Million last transfer window strengthening their side, forget net spend yet another smokescreen thrown about, its what you spend. For us net is a bit more relevant as we have to sell to buy and always will, a club like Liverpool have won little for a club their size for years and have been silently bankrolled, dont be fooled by the media.

How much has Liverpools current side cost the club? Their wage bill? They had exceding expectations of course as their aim was top 4, with the best striker in the World currently they always had a chance, dont believe all the media. Healthy competition? Whats healthy about the premiership? A model of unsustainable crap, the clubs love it though as its money for nothing, as long as they stay in the Premiership that is all (what is the point of that?) then they realise how they have become dependent on it and not independent in anyway at all.

Everything thats wrong in football is right here, if the lad was from Salford, Trafford or Patricroft I could understand but this belnd is blatently from Reading or some suburban shiethole.

The entertainment is up because the League is weaker, if you refer to Liverpool then its a media smokescreen, their spending in the pursuit of the Premier League totals over (well over) half a Billion pounds since its inception, the media love them and forget Suarez and his filth, their huge wage bill. Its such a false model of how to do things, more tv money is given and in turn slaries and transfers go up not in anyway benefitting the club or their fans, gate receipts count for nothing now and the clubs could let the fans in for free, such is the marketing. Its not our game, they are not even our teams, its alien nowadays and people love the charade as they have a plastic stadium and have an extra camera view of a ****e overplayed player from afar.

It would not be an issue if we bought well as if the players performed we could have sold them on for profit but could we do on many of our players? Forren Mayuka Written off in effect, Ramirez and Osvaldo? Wanyama even? We sell our high priced assets and keep these? Is this a conspiracy from within?

I am, I think its ****e in many ways but we could learn an awful lot from those across the pond about FFP and regulation, wage caps, drafts and teams salary caps are the way to go to make it fairer, the larger clubs will always be larger than us an we need to accept that (the clappers are eventually coming round to the prospect of us and our actual size and not the one we all want the club to be but will never happen) but it could be an awful lot fairer, an actual incentive to play and keep youth talent would be a start, as it stands we are simply a nursery that gets reimbursed to do the same and function, rinse and repeat which is depressing as what do we actaully get out of it? In real terms nothing at all other than a pat on the back from the press and the larger clubs who buy from us but the small man does the labour and gets a few coin, thats not right or fair. We also need a transparent system where we can see how much the clubs actually earns and then a % of that can only go on players and wages combined, not this ****e they have now whereby it can be worked around, a system that actually works. More and more people are turning away from the Premiership and I for one am happy that they are questioning such a plastic "product" which only in real terms is there for teams to qualify for Europe (large cartel clubs) and the dogged relegation games at the end, the atmosphere is crap and I include Anfield this season bar a few games who the media absolutely love for their old school cauldron ********. The quality is suffering as other cartel clubs spring up in Europe and Leagues remerged which is fine by me, this is the weakest standard I can remember for at least 15 years so we now say it may not be the best but its the most exciting. We are being played by Scudamore and Murdoch etc etc.

I been saying this for how long?

No it didn't United sent us down unless I am missing something?

Not sneering at all, obvious reality, shall I call you an unrealistic dreamer now as opposed to a clapper? It appears the realistic ones have been correct all along doesn't it though? Not that it was exactly difficult to predict that at all.

Who thinks finishing 8th is poor? Its as good as its going to get, thats the point.

Why do they harp on abut 4-1 so much? We have beaten them 3-0 on a number of occasions.