UpweySaint

Massive difference between not putting more in and actively seeking to take it out!

Crikey he looks good! Not sure the show pony needs to be drilled our necessarily, just needs maturity of decision making. That sort of player will lose the ball over elaborating now and then but will also have moments of inspiration! Sign him up

http://www.wsc.co.uk/wsc-daily/1184-july-2014/11780-southampton-s-player-sales-vindicate-academy-trust Nothing ground breaking but a quick, interesting perspective.

If true it confirms a lot of our concerns about what has been going on at the club but I do not see a single source and, for a fact led piece, it comes across rather subjective.

Noubt wrong with people doubting his ability so long as it is not personal jibes. Kelvin has been a class act for us, remember seeing him on the pitch the league one promotion and you could tell how much it meant to him, cracking pro. Anyway ... somebody at the game fancy giving us some ratings? I know it is really subjective but nice to get a few perspectives personally I hope Isgrove looked good. Think he looked rather good v bournemouth and would love to see the lad finally make his breakthrough with us this season!

Does anybody happen to know if there be a steam available as was the case for the Bournemouth friendly? If so links would be kindly appreciated!

The artist formerly known as saints starting XI ... Or, not saints related but a classic that makes me chuckle, 'dontcallmeschurrle'

Sorry where does it say about option to sign? A couple of people have mentioned it but I can't see anything saying that on the OS ...

May help with the team blending both on and off the pitch if he knows somebody in the side. Can't say I know enough about him personally to make too much of a judgement but the sporting press seem to have positive things to say about him.

As above I stated rumours on twitter. May be utter bullsh*t but figured it was worth a thread that can be taken down if it can't be substantiated ...

It may turn out to be nonsense but the latest rumour doing the rounds on twitter is that there has been a 'bust-up' at Staplewood this morning involving three players. Hope this is not true! We are becoming something of a laughing stock ...

Err yes, yes it is. Unless there is a clause in his contract stating otherwise the contract ties him to the club, legally, in good times and bad. Imagine if we were doing well he (not picking on him as it is a general point) would happily accept bonuses on top of his contract so when things don't go well he is still obligated to pitch in. As much as I think we all would have agreed, prior to the exodus, should anybody deserve a move it would be him the club comes first and he may have to suck it up for a season. Still be plenty of interest next summer and will go out with his integrity intact should he buckle down and have another cracking season.

Champions league ... if he having a laugh? Jesus christ! Has the man seen the blinding squad?!?

Cheers, any update on time if and when you know would be great.

Refreshing to hear a player talk with such passion for the club (even if he is long retired!).

The first bit is not about the board's role at all, it is about players. I understand players wanting to leave (may not always agree with it) but I don't understand the way the board have conducted their business. You seem to be suggesting that a player wanting to leave means we have to sell ... we don't. Moreover if and when we do decide to sell it should be at a time that is in our clubs best interests ... ie when we have replacements sorted. You reference the money factor but we, as a club, have already made substantial gains yet appear to be prepared to lose yet more crucial players for our first team and I would not be too surprised if the rumours are correct and these deals would v much be on the terms on the bidding clubs.

Taken in isolation the deal may be seen as good (personally I don't think so but can see how others might) however there is more to a 'good deal' than the price.

I will second that. Surely we could have held off on departures until we actually had more of our own signings over the line? I still think we have a lot to offer but make no mistake this puts out a bad image no matter what spin Reed and co try to put on it.

Jesus christ it is as if nobody on the board has even heard of the word NO. Just because a player says he wants to leave does not mean we have to bend over backwards to make his wishes come true. The club is meant to come first. No bedwetting, no pitchfork wielding. If Koeman only wants committed players or we need the money etc that is life but I am baffled why nobody has sat down and tried to convince Chambers that it was too soon for him to leave.

At a basic level that is right but it is more the manner in which Dejan has gone about things that has upset folk.

Act like a professional and make his feelings known privately as not to undermine the negotiating position of his employer which made his last 'dream' come true... He may earn mega bucks, win an fa cup or two with Liverpool and be proven as a top quality player but he will always be a classless pr*ck

Holding back judgement but the board really could do with something positive for the fans. Somebody said it elsewhere ...imagine a statement will be tagged on with the next signing. Honestly would not be shocked to see us announce a couple at once and let Koeman do the talking.

I find it strange. You suggested that if Celtic lose it would imply Van Dijk and Forster are not good enough or not "so great" as you put it.

Strange logic. Even the best players are on the losing side now and then. I imagine saint charlie's point is no champions league seriously damages celtic's negotiating position. The players no longer have the option have champions league football if they stay and celtic, because of the clubs financial realities, would be more inclined to entertain sensible offers should they miss out on qualification.

Bit of gallows humour! I'm a struggling optimist really