KelvinsRightGlove

No, I'm saying if you are an adult, old enough to know better perhaps it would be wise to make sure the young man or woman in question is old enough. I'm not saying don't, I'm saying err on the side of caution. Exactly the same as if you aren't sure if someone is too drunk to consent. You know, maybe try engaging your brain before engaging your penis. It's not as if people up and down the country don't go out and get drunk and have sex on a daily basis. 99.9% of those cases don't lead to arrest. A couple of cases get reported where it happens and someone does get arrested and there is uproar that OMG you can't put it anywhere without getting arrested anymore. Seems most people are perfectly capable. It's not exactly a lot to ask really.

Sadly, I think this is the case. I'd love if the Barca rumours are true. I'd hate to have to see him line up against us twice (maybe more) a season. Yes, I am aware that is a little petty.

Haha, yes, right you are. Thanks for pointing that out Bear.

Promiscuity is my problem? I'm very sex positive. If two (or more) people of legal age want to have sex in any which way they want, by all means crack on. Do what you want to do. I just find it utterly hilarious when blokes whine about, oh it's so hard being a man, seems like you can't do anything without getting nicked anymore. It's natural adjustment from a time when women were basically seen as objects for men to f*ck and then call slappers for doing so. This bizarre paranoia that people are trying to stop people having sex, or are going to lock you up just for having sex is just pathetic. Same as the Ched Evans thread. No, you aren't going to get arrested if you have drunken consensual sex, and hey maybe just try not to sleep with girls (or boys if that's your thing) that could be underage. It's not exactly hard is it?

Ha fair point, maybe I am asking a bit much of footballers.

I'm going to miss that lad when he is gone. I'm still not over that pass he played to Mané at the weekend, wow.

I'm sure some will. They are young girls, young people do silly things all the effing time. Again, these older men are capable of saying no. Just because a young girl might dress up and try and sleep with an older guy, it doesn't mean he has to. He could maybe, you know, use his experience to think it might not be wise? The idea that men will simply put their cock anywhere it will go is a pretty grim way to think about guys.

Read some of the posts above, people talking about 14/15 year old girls saying they are to blame. Like us blokes are these big horrible monsters incapable of any control and simply following our penises wherever it points. It's utter crap.

Oi Lou, nowt wrong with messing around with computer games as a kid. It's what got me the job I have now! Why is Ralph going though? He's going to wreck it all again

All I see is a lot of "Waaahhhhhh, why can't I put it anywhere without worrying about the consequences. Womens are so evil, it's all their faults!!!"

MLT confesses himself he isn't the greatest of coaches. Not opposed to the idea in theory, but would rather get someone good at the job.

The conversation had moved slightly away from it at the point Lord D interjected with that point. Also, that is literally his diagnosis for every single problem this great country faces.

Makes you wish you lived in a land where everyone owns guns.

Not the country, globally. You can't expect the population of the planet to treble in around 50 years and expect England to be just like it always was, before it went to the dogs when all them nasty funny talking people came in. We're fill to bursting now. It's not fairs I tell ya!

There's barely a question there. And besides, I answer, you blame immigrants. Same for pretty much any topic, what's the point? I mean, we couldn't possibly hope for improved conditions from a public organisation, right? The immigrants just ruin it by taking anything they can get. Never mind that improving pay and conditions may help attract more domestic nurses, or the more nurses and doctors that we need from anywhere (surely a fully staffed NHS with qualified people in the right jobs is a good thing, no matter where they come from?).

Immigrants, immigrants, immigrants. Change the record man.

You know blaming everything on immigration really doesn't address why for a long time not enough doctors or GPs have been trained domestically, right? Like, immigration is not the only cause of all the ills in the world. I know the leader of your people's army may tell you it's true, but it really isn't.

I think you are ignoring just how badly treated nurses are in the NHS. Suicidal hours and shift patterns, crap pay and generally kicked from pillar to post. No doubt they go into to help people. The training and intelligence required suggests that they are most likely capable of doing better financially elsewhere, but there comes a point where crap money and crap conditions will take it's toll. Nothing about British Ethics, it's being human. And, as BTF points out above, for many agency work is better suited to family life.

Because, as I said, we breed cattle and chickens as if they were crops. They aren't animals, they are things to feed us. Hence there are so many cows, hence they are polluting the planet. Which as I said, is part of how people pollute the planet in trying to feed us. Yep, humans are still the worst species.

Ofcourse, not saying he has done anything for definite.

There won't even be any qualified doctors that have had to take on that debt level yet, so it's impossible to judge the impact yet. It's easy to rationalise it, but to a 17 year old (i.e. when most students are filling out their UCAS forms) that is a big scary number to have to think about. Can't say I'd blame anyone unsure about whether they want to commit to it. Proud to say the GF is currently doing her GP training

Did you say that was Nurses? I've heard similar for them, but to my understanding it is a slightly different case for Doctors. It's often not as straightforward as being a private or NHS Doctor. Quite often Doctors that do private work are indeed NHS Doctors as well. EDIT: Again though, that is because the way Nurses are treated (and yes, paid) in this country is shocking. I don't blame them for not wanting to work for the NHS.

Thought we were all for the 'right' people coming in? Surely Doctors, to fill gaps needed in the NHS are the 'right' people. Or is it because they aren't from the lauded Australia & Canada (why is it always Oz & Canada that people are so upset about? Is it because they look and sound reasonably similar to us)? But yeah, we aren't training enough. Because as I said on another thread, you are asking 17 year olds to saddle themselves with in around £60-£70k debt just to become a Doctor. Unsurprisingly, that scares people off. Funnily enough, Doctors are also treated so crappily here (and actually paid less) that many of them end up p!ssing off once they have finished training - where they end up in Australia. On better money, with better conditions. The hospitals there bend over backwards to accommodate them.

Sky News and Sky Sports reporting this also it seems. Is he really only 27? Seems he's been around forever. Needs banging up if true. Awful thing to do.

Another new Ms Barnett track, god I love her. Hoping the knee is better in time for her Electric Ballroom show, I'm going to fan girl so hard.