KelvinsRightGlove

How cute, they're talking about me on another thread now. I think they like me deep down really. It's ok, KRG is v friendly. Hugs for all

Rumbled I was trying to be good! I was saying how sexism is bad for men! I was fighting for the mens Halo :'( Alas, where is Lou, I have some more sucking up to do it seems.

So friends, what is everyone doing with their weekends? Anything fun planned?

Yes, it's totally me that sounds like the angry, aggressive internet warrior here. Have a nice weekend.

Ah yes, violence is the answer. On a thread about domestic abuse nonetheless. Top work.

Your opening gambit sounds as though you are mocking me for wanting no sexism at all? Is that such a bad thing? Of course I want there to be no sexism. If you bothered to read my posts, you would see I acknowledge you are never going to completely eradicate sexist views. Further proof you haven't bothered to read anything I have said, my entire point is about changing people's attitudes. As I have said on other threads, I do think the overwhelming majority of people are reasonable, decent folk. However, it is perfectly possible for pleasant people to hold prejudiced views and act in harmful ways without any intention to do so. Again, something I have said before is that if people are encouraged to examine and look at some of their own views and behaviours, we could make some really positive changes for everyone. Evidenced by this thread, there is clearly a bias in society that views men can't be the sufferers of domestic violence or abuse. This is deeply damaging to men who do suffer from abuse or violence at the hands of their partners. If we as a society changed the way we viewed this, this could have a massively positive impact on the lives of men who are victims in this way. This is one tiny, that's not to say insignificant, example of sexist views in society that harm people. These can be found everywhere. I'm not at any stage calling for a mass change in society to be forced upon anyone, but hey let's throw in some false equivalence. Because asking for people to examine their views is totes equal to the implementation of an Authoritarian/Fascist regime right?

Ah point proven. No intention of discussing in good faith, so this is pointless. Your only argument seems to hinge on, "Things could be worse, be thankful for what you have and shut up".

Why? If you are intentionally going to misrepresent what I'm saying I don't see the point of continuing a discussion in bad faith. As I've just said to Bear there are plenty of people that have expressed concerns that racism is on the rise again, after a prolonged period of improvement in that area.

It's not as if I am a lone voice on this, plenty of people from all works of life have expressed similar concerns.

When did I describe Britain as a hellhole? Or is levelling any criticism of something equivalent to saying it is completely awful?

We weren't exactly at a great starting point for that though, were we? I agree, things have been worse but as you say yourself we should not stop striving to push for things to be improved for all. As for your last sentence, I would, unsurprisingly, disagree. I actually think as a society racism is getting worse, and more overt. There's a certain group of people I would blame for this, who are making people feel racism is once more acceptable. I think our society is both inherently racist and sexist. Until we can change that, which I am fully aware is extremely unlikely, sexism and racism are never going to be eradicated. You are never going to stop bigots, who hold racist/sexist views, there will be unpleasant people with crappy views. If we could change the society to make the pervasive opinions that effect everyone, and improve education I think we could go a long way to make life better for a lot of people.

How dafuq did this win GOTY at the BAFTA's last night? Monument Valley was robbed!! For reals, play Monument Valley if you havn't. It's a wonderful little game.

This is a really common, and effective way to hold up anything. "Why do you care about this, when this is worse". I've never once insinuated the UK is the worst society in the world, but that doesn't mean it isn't a sexist society all the same. No doubting you are correct in saying we have come a long way, but that doesn't mean there isn't still a long way to go. All that can still be true without saying "why moan about 'x' when 'y' is worse". As is highlighted there is still institutional sexism rife is this country. There is anecdotal evidence of a fraction of it right here on this thread, against men no less! We do still live in a very sexist society, yes some of the more obvious barriers have come down, but to ignore some of the (only slightly) more behind the scenes stuff that is so pervasive and the effects of sexist attitudes that are all around us is daft too. As I said, it's bad for everyone, men and women. Laws may have changed, but people's attitudes and behaviours still lag behind, and complacency will do nothing to make things better for everyone.

This is exactly why sexism is also as bad for men as it is women. Ideas of what makes a man, or what makes a woman help no-one. 'Men' don't get abused by women, which is daft as there is examples right here of it happening. People don't talk about it enough as A) Men don't like to admit to it, as they feel it doesn't make them a real man, and B) They aren't taken seriously, for mostly the same reasons. Edit: SoG's post above highlights this too. The sexist society we live in is bad for everyone, Men & Women, Boys & Girls.

Ah nice, like her. I've never been to The Joiners m'self, but aren't all the best venues dumps?

I did, and still continue to, bloody love that bloke.

Very sad news. Not read huge amounts of his stuff, but what I have I really liked. Seemed a decent chap from what I saw of him too.

Yes, you correctly identified a drama was fictional. That does not therefore mean all reporting on the same channel will also be made up. The drama was most likely made by a production company, entirely separate from the news team. Shall we ensure we ban all dramas so as to ensure any 'bias' of the creators of such shows do not offend anyone that aligns with the protagonist of said dramas? Who in this case, happened to ardently defend the principle of Free Speech (i.e. a very crappy magazine that was frequently racist, sexist, homophobic and generally nasty to every religion going). Or just have separate news channels, where nothing else is allowed to be shown? Though, there are inherently biased news channels also. Or you could just let go of the show that's got you so upset in the first place.

>Identifies it as a drama >Upset it isn't honest, impartial reporting

Think this would be an appropriate avatar for you Bear.

Liking his new tune atm. Off t'see him with the mother at the end of the month with Johnny Marr playing support. Hopefully the knee is better, as we are standing! [video=youtube;vARCtbWH-cE]

It really didn't grip me, I must confess. Owned it a year and a half now and still not completed it. Don't think I've even touched it for about 6 months.

McCormack cost £11m to move from one Championship club to another, I don't think he's even played in the Prem. Talk of Jordan Rhodes costing £12m to move from Champ club to Champ club, on the proviso of promotion. Again, no Premier League experience. To say Austin, one of the top scorers in the league at a team like QPR whilst also with the English player premium, would be lucky to go for £6m seems a little silly. Ye, I know comparing fees like for like is utterly daft and I do hate it. But I felt it needed highlighting at this point.

Hobo-chic FTW!!!

Hey, sorry Whelk missed this til now. Honestly, I'm not actually sure. He just kept saying he brought the wrong console. I'll enquire further next time I see him. He did seem to really love the controllers though.