Saint86

I watched Ralph's team through every minute of the 9-0s and all the other shit fests. I'm not watching the rest of this car crash tonight.

Right. Silver lining time. We were never going to win this game, and now stephens is suspended for the next 3 games and in all seriousness must surely have royally pissed off Martin...?!?1 Surely?!?! Thats worth a point or 2 potentially? 😄

I reckon we can reasonably attribute a good 6-7points to refereeing this season. Then consider at least some of those points were given to the likes of Leicester, Ipswich, and wolves - so deduct at least 2 to them - Its not at all clear we should even be in the relegation zone if we'd had fair or even consistent refereeing.

I think you may be right. It was interesting what Martin said after the Brighton game, i.e, quite a quiet lad, fairly introverted, how they just try to keep it about the football for him so that he can come in relaxed and play etc. May well be that a club like saints (with less spot light) is seen as a good place for him to develop over the next year or two. I don't think he'll be rushing to move whilst he's playing regularly - just to go and sit on a bench at a bigger club. Equally though, Dibling did remark on the manager not playing him last season in his own interview 😅

The official reason it was ruled out as offside was because Armstrong stopped the defender playing the ball. One of them is in front of Armstrong and misses the ball, which then goes behind Armstrong. The other one is on the other side of the 6yard box and a meter behind Archer. Armstrong therefore had no impact on either defender's ability to play the ball. Which means var were making it up as they went along to justify ruling out the goal. I actually wouldn't have an issue with it being ruled out for him impacting on the keeper... but that isn't how the rules are applied - time after time after time, offside players 'positions' interfere on other defenders and the keepers resulting in goals and it's generally ignored. So it would be typical if that was used to punish saints.... But it wasn't, and that wasn't the reason given.

First half was absolute dog. Some of the worst i've seen us play at this level. Lucky Brighton weren't at it. Second half much better. More points robbed again by var in the end. But we didn't deserve to be in a position to get any points out of this game after that first half. Lumley did alright in fairness. Better at kicking than macca! Dibling absolutely superb! (was sure Downes was going to get himself sent off at some point, so the fact he didn't is defo a bonus!)

We must be the most screwed over team this year. Var has cost us enough points to put us adrift put it that way.

We are the charity case for the league. We're bottom and adrift, considered as no hopers. So we're seen as an easy team for them to give var calls against and keep the other teams at least partially appease.

They wanted to rule it as offside. They couldn't see the ball and the player to show it clearly, so they've made some nonsense up about Armstrong to justify it. Simple as that. We were never getting that goal.

Not sure they can see the ball and the player to draw the lines. They thought it was off, so they were looking for a reason to rule it out - hence the Armstrong ruling. Farcical.

Surely offside. Thought that when it went in. Plus ofc we need var to screw us over again 😅. Superb by dibling again though. How good is this kid!

Tried are hardest to not score there 🤣 Great play by dibling again though.

Not just Martin. Sports republic as well. They've gutted the club whilst spending hundreds of millions... But they basically sold off all the valuable assets at this point - imagine how things will get when the money is gone.

This is a training game for Brighton. We can be thankful they aren't really in the mood.

It's half time vs Brighton - anyone willing to state an argument in his defence?

This is worse than any 9-0. We aren't in this game. There is no belief, no system... We've turned up to lose and are just playing for time whilst it happens. And that is entirely on Martin. He picked this team, he set them up, he's left it unchanged for the first 30min when the entire fanbase can see how appallingly bad we are. Just a joke. Or maybe this is the players finally saying they want him out. They sure as hell aren't playing for him today.

I want him gone after this game. There is just no excuse for this fucking awful setup. It's almost like he didn't think we could win so wanted an excuse for losing. Just a total joke tonight.

5 defenders, and we allow the Japanese winger to drift in and score an unmarked stooping header. Martin needs to go. This is beyond shocking.

God help us if we actually score. Brighton will wake up and actually slaughter us 😂

Why did we rush that free kick by our own corner flag when we were under pressure. That is just demented. It basically led straight to that wellbeck header...

He isn't alone. Martin has clearly failed to give them any kind of structure at the back. Only saving grace is we're so bad and essentially harmless that we're lowering Brighton's standards 🤣😂

It's really unfortunate we know absolutely nothing about rutter isn't it?

The only question tonight is what kind of mood are Brighton in. Do they want a comfortable 3-0 win with their slippers on in front of the fire, or do they want to murder us.

7min in and I would say it's fucking blindingly obvious that the back 5 do not know what they're meant to be doing, who they're covering, who to mark, when to step up etc. Where each other are... Just appalling.

Should be 1-0