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But but but... we have standing, fanzones, and pens... We're awesome now?!?!

Both 9-0s were Mike Dean / fatty boy mason infested. That is the most hopeless half I've ever seen a saints side play I think. Bournemouth could score at will every attack of they had better players. We should be 6-0 down, not 3-0.

The thing is, whatever comes out in the second half, we've just thrown away another game against supposedly weaker opposition. It's just not good enough. Really does look like he's completely out of his depth and if that is the case we may as well sack him now - don't waste Leicester at home as well.

Yes.

There is a parallel universe where your namesake was never undermined and sacked and we're an established top 10 club looking towards Europe with our best academy talents still at the club, as well as tino and lavia... Oh well ey?

He appears woefully out of his depth by allowing this to continue. The game is now gone. Shocking.

Martin has just sat here. Watched this formation be appalling. Watched them score 2. Watched them attack more and more, stroked his beard nervously a number of times, changed nothing and allowed it to continue.... And sure enough they've scored a 3rd. Entirely on Martin that goal, inexcusable.

And now a deflection. We ain't playing well, but we're getting bent over. And all of that from fernandes recieving a two handed push right in front of Oliver and nothing being given.

Feels harsh there. Ball maybe moving and lesley (I think) should have just kicked it away slightly to prevent the quick kick... Basics... And we've been punished with a really good goal. Harsh.

Loving all the fans that didn't want to sign Delap 😂

There needs to be more urgency/fire/ruthlessness etc. Bournemouth have just had a poor result, will be fired up for sure, and no we're soft as anything - they'll come into this game looking to bury us. At the moment, i feel like Martin seems to be treating the premier league as a bit of a novelty/jolly to be enjoyed... Its not enough. And okay, maybe the club feel they've sorted the finances/squad out and feel much safer re the impacts of another relegation... but it would still be grim for the club and the staff, and the players as well. As it is though, the manager and players seem more relaxed than i would like over how we've started. Maybe that is credit to Martin and his team.... But equally, we're staring the shit right in the face already. And for whatever reason, there still doesn't seem to be enough fight/urgency (for their premier league lives) amongst the players as yet - and we are absolutely at that stage already this season. A win is needed ASAP..... And they're going to need to raise their game for this Bournemouth game. And after this game its Arsenal Away, Leicester home (regularly a bogey fixture for us and a 6pointer - if we're lucky😂), and then City Away. After that its Everton (who are going to start picking up points at some points no question). So for me, we absolutely have to get 2 wins and a draw out of Leicester/Everton/Bournemouth) or we're pretty cooked IMO. That would put us on 8 for 9. And after that, we'll have already played most of the weakest teams in the league and things will only get harder - The next 4 games will be Brighton/Liverpool/Chelsea/Villa.

This can never happen again... Absolutely suicidal, let alone when defending a lead. WTF... Edit... Just coming back to this image. I don't think i've ever witnessed a defensive setup this appalling from a corner - I am almost speechless at it. They are premier league players ffs... That is our entire team almost camped in our own 6 yard box. And still the player in the centre of the 6yard box is unmarked, and the guy at the back post... let alone the 3 outside the box. We've basically used our 10 outfield players to effectively mark 4 (maybe 5) Ipswich players - leaving the other 4-5 to do whatever they want. Its shocking.

Agree. He was unlucky with both his big chances. The first one he does so well to take it round the keeper and defence. And the second one it takes a bad bounce and he does all he can to get his toe on it with power. Just wasn't to be. He looks alright in a 4-2-3-1 with Fernandes, Lallana, and dibbling controlling the play and feeding him. There were at least signs of progress in this game. Put a 2nd chance away and we win - As per last season, we were better than Ipswich and have again lost to pure fluke from them, its becoming a bad joke - Let alone having them singing "its happened again" at the end 🤮

Just watched MoTD. Not only did he give away the stupid free kick that started that entire period of late Ipswich pressure on our box. He also missed his header to let Hirst in behind him (despite a massive height advantage), which resulted in Ramsdale knocking it over for the corner... which resulted directly in the goal. A bad day at the office for Stewart all round. Although ironically, he was perfectly placed to block the shot on goal until the deflection. In fact MoTD have covered the prior header in detail... Lack of pressing after we had cleared well let Ipswich back in... and then Stewart misses the header.. Hirst has to be the smallest player in that area ffs. A real shame. Hopefully though they can take the positives from that game - it was ultimately a much better performance. No excuse really for Stewart missing that header. He's a big CF and he's under no pressure...

Reality is that we played well, but we didn't take our chances and Martin bottled it at the end with the subs and changes. That an Ipswich once again are the luckiest team i've ever seen us play. 3 times now. absolute joke. Out strikers are just not good enough for this level, which may well send us down. As an aside, how many millions have SR spent now to still not replace danny ings... Who i think is outscoring (or at least matching) our current strikers, despite playing in a struggling Spam side.

Tall Paul is miles better than Ross Stewart.

At the end of the season, how many teams do you think will get worse result at home against Ipswich?

Ross Stewart should never have been on the pitch. All that pressure from his needless foul/free kick. Added nothing at all.

Currently top of Serie A.

What's going on here then? 🤔

Onuachu has been linked with Goztepe but he's rumoured to want a better move than SR's backup club. I thought that was the sum of it... I imagine he thinks he can force a move to trabonzapor by not accepting any other offers. Not really sure i understand what you're trying to say with the rest of this post - I doubt he knows anything about Martin "being pushed out" as there is very little chance Martin is about to be sacked in the immediate future. Reads like just another post trying to add a little more noise to the agenda against Martin.

Bit harsh on Sam tbh. He is an incredibly skilful winger that rarely looked like he couldn't beat his man. What he needs to learn is that final ruthlessness once he's round his man. Playing in the Belgium league for Anderlecht will give him lots of opportunities where they're attacking teams and he needs to hone his final delivery. If he gets that sorted he'll be a class winger.

95% of this forum voted for him to be sacked at the start of last season when we were letting in 5 vs Sunderland's injury ravaged kids team, and 4 vs Leicester and Norwich... he got us promoted. Two narrow losses and a 3-1 home defeat to Brentford (a very good pressing side) are nowhere near as serious - especially as it was absolutely critical we got promoted last year (see Leeds this summer), where as (like it or not) getting promoted and then relegated again this year is a far preferable fate. . For consideration though, generally i think people would say that Adkins was harshly sacked (and looked like he was going to keep us up when he was eventually sacked), I would say that Martin deserves at least a similar amount of time on his side (especially given the fact he has changed our style, sorted the dressing room, and totally changed the momentum of the club). You've set a deadline of 1 month (being the 5th October), that is only another 4 games - which would bring us to the Fulham draw below. 4 points. Its worth nothing though that as of the 5th November, we were bottom and still only on 4 points after 10games. As with Adkins (and the promotion squad), they needed to find their feet and adjust to the league. The following fixtures (up until his sacking post the Chelsea draw) show we picked up significantly - with us in 15th on 22 points after 22 games. Also, when Poch came in, it took him another 4 matches to win a league game - and that was with an acclimatised squad of players. Somewhat facetiously playing devils' advocate, people weren't calling for Poch to be sacked after 3 game (other than because he was an argie who'd done the dirty on ol Nige with Cortese ) As for this season - The transfer window has just closed, its evident Martin's given the settled players (i.e. those that got us promoted) the bulk of the game time and tried to quickly bed in some of the new players around them as is reasonable imo. The players signed after 16th August have had very little time to settle and adjust tactically. Sugawara signed 29th July - played 3 of 3 in the league BBD - signed 30th July - Played 3 of 3 in the league Lesley signed 16th August - played 1 of 3 (but a defensive player in games we were chasing) Archer signed 16th August - played 3 of 3. Fernandes signed 20th August - Played 2 of 3 Ramsdale signed 30th August - played 1 of 1 games Fraser/cornet both signed too late to play. Based on Martin's own comments and the involvement of the new signings, i would anticipate different starting line ups after the international break - Possibly even reverting to the 4-3-3.

Its pretty mental to me that 3 games in there are people discussing him getting the sack, let alone wanting him to be sacked. Get a grip ffs - he's earned more than 3 games in the prem 🤣

Seems like an absolute joke of a decision tbh.