Saint86

Because our CEO had already admitted to everything.

Any legal case against the EFL is not going to start with "we accept everything, and we acknowledge the panel's right to award the punishment". If anything, i would read it as us trying to mitigate any further damage, draw a line under it, keep Tonda and the coaching/analyst teams in place, and discourage the FA from bringing in external oversight of first team coaching/scouting departments. I.e., we could make this very messy for the EFL, lets all just move on.

The biggest surprise i get with social media, is its repeated ability to surprise me with just how thick most of the population are.

It's a pretty shit opening to a legal response. Basically accepting everything that matters and saying the panel was entitled to reach the punishment it did. Everything else in there is just bitter last words that carry no weight after the fact.

Think it's really important to remember Parsons and co were on half time and very little has moved on since last week. He works really hard and loves the club don't forget. That's all that matters when overseeing a total business and sporting calamity of this scale.

Salt and Taylor, surely?

Reads like the club have just browsed the spygate thread on here and rehashed a few points into a statement... They haven't done that right?

Yeah, very telling that they've now released the evidence and there still isn't any hard evidence of Eckert either instructing the scouting or of him bullying staff members.

Great minds... 😆😅

Reminiscent of Southgate Vs Italy. Fully bottled it. Failed to step up second half when psg were tiring, yielded the entire pitch and possession to psg. If arsenal had won it would have been a travesty.

They are a weird crowd, quite why they're still going on about us I don't know. They're fools as well, all they are doing is adding spice on our favour for the next match - they got out of the whole affair with everything they wanted from us - whereas us as fans (and the players), and indeed the whole squad will be going for them all guns blazing. You think they'd stop feeding that fire at some points but no 😅

Sadly my friend, it's more likely than not that the FA will use this chance to go in two footed on saints (and therefore look like they are doing something to protect the game), because they won't tackle serious offenders (due to corruption or cowardice). Smaller and less connected clubs have always been easy pickings in the UK, and saints have never been that well liked by the establishment. I have been one of the most vocal for tonda to stay, but even I expect deep down for us to get bent over... And with that, I fully expect the FA to drag it out as long as possible and blow up our summer / pre season plans. Wouldn't be that surprised if they go after spors, or even try to install an external over sight committee of our scouting/analytics departments to boot. Blood is in the water, saints look weak and vulnerable, people will take us for all they can in any aspect of the footballing world. It's on the club to be robust and stand up to that, and so far there have been precious few signs of that happening (at least that we can publically see). (I'm a cheerful soul aren't I 🤣🫣)

Maguire is interesting to listen to, and he's good at headlining certain data... but equally, he specifically headlines the worst data because that's what gets him air time and money. Re Saints, he's neglected to mention potential incoming fee instalments seemingly (or the media that are quoting him have), and instead just highlighted what saints owe... In reality, i'd suggest any team that's spent tens to hundreds of millions on transfers in the past 3years owes similar amounts. It becomes an issue when there is no money coming in... Like Leicester or west ham, both of which have reportedly cashed in on future transfer instalments. I think i am right in saying this interview took place with Blackmore / solent? in which case its another example of them jumping on a negative outlook and not doing even a basic 30min bit of research to look at saints liabilities and incomings, and either put proper questions to Maguire, or challenge Maguire for a more balanced outlook.

Maybe he can repeat his playing career by joining us in league 1 on -10points in a couple of years and then carrying us to back to back promotions... 😄

Surely that would only emphasis the need to keep the best manager we've had in years and who had us on course for 113points (if our form post switching to a 4-2-3-1 was extrapolated over a season). Also, the clubs finances (and owing £100M in fee installments as a second tier side) is not the fault of the 32year old mananger we appointed halfway through the most recent season. And don't forget, we don't owe all that money this year. We presumably also have other installments coming in from player sales (such as TD and MF last summer). For info, I have made no effort all to fact check this... Incoming fees: The 2025 accounts show a £108M debt on outgoings installments. So Maguire's figure of £99M uses other data. But equally, the MF and TD sales (and others), plus last summer's incoming purchases will all have impacted the numbers. But regardless, I doubt it's as bad as Maguire suggests. Just looking at those numbers: June 25: Outgoing transfer instalments = £108.3M (total) Outgoing transfer instalments = £63.1M (1 year - i.e., now cleared) Incoming transfer instalments = £72.9M (total) Incoming transfer instalments = £44.2M (1 year - i.e., now cleared) Outstanding instalments = -£16.5M (money owed based on historic transfers). Player trading profit last summer = between £60M and £80M. So, re player transfers, we should be in the black when this years accounts get published? Just as important as sorting out transfer liabilities, will be getting wages to a level that is sensible and sustainable for our situation as a parachute team.