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Can you imagine, would be the most ridiculous punishment ever 😄. There is absolutely no point giving him a significant sanction as that is only a serious punishment for the club... if we are forced to let him go he walks straight into a good job in Germany... very hard to see any sanction like that as anything other than a triple punishment on saints, and you would imagine we would make hay in the media to that effect

Respectfully no. If Eckert actually instructed them to scout within the rules, but then they cocked it up and went a day late and breached the window off of their own backs, then its obviously very different to eckert deliberately instructing them to break the rules and having a plan in place to actively cheat (as per canada and their drone). None of us know the truth, but it would perhaps explain the stories about it being a lone employee who had breached the rules. And a young lad with a mobile phone down the wrong end of a training ground does fit the narrative of a junior employee cocking up and trying to get his work done however he can to make it up. This is a hearing about Eckert's conduct ultimately - If he instructed the scouting for Middlesbrough within the legal time period, and not in a period that breached the rules, it is relevant - The FA need actual evidence that he egregiously broke the rules to give him a significant punishment. Or at least, that is how it should work.

A rule Bielsa wasn't charged under - so to jump to a huge sanction for it would be ludicrous and wide open to a challenge. He'll get 2-4games tops.

Because, "parsons"? 😄

The scouting team forgetting to send someone on the correct day and sending the intern up a day late is the same thing as hiring a drone (and sourcing associated licences) to provide a real time overhead recordings of a rivals world cup pre match training?

Even more sickening if it really is the case that the scouting team cocked it up, went late, and then infringed on the 72hour rule through their own poor organisation.

Sounds like a right "raise the colours" sort. You know he wants to scream "deport him"...

Didn't the head of the scouting and analysis team leave the club immediately after we were kicked out? I would say the rot was significantly within that team regardless - they weren't all junior interns and they have all been in the English game long enough to know the rules. Those messages that were leaked were all internal to the analysis team - "nice one mate, the boss loved it" were internal communications showing their own team instructing Salt end of the day.

Yeah, as usual, the title is pure click bait, but the quotes provide an interesting take.

Make of this what you will, but predicting a 2-4 game ban and a fine. https://talk2soccer.com/the-football-association-issues-a-fresh-statement-on-the-tonda-eckert-situation-as-the-latest-update-on-southamptons-expected-ban-emerges/?fbclid=Iwb21leAUf4LpjbGNrBR_gWnBkb2YFZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMzUwNjg1NTMxNzI4AAEeLv9lxDkjAYyHXhpvZTTE5FJCLEYKk0qtjl92r8SLJ-4nZIMFWK9dM07WgRs_aem_xljNiCUyf9qsQD27NM6sAQ

Because it absolutely wasn't appropriate and they were probably secretly delighted hull won 😅🤣

Potentially, but if that was the case - why was there no further evidence of other spying offences - i.e., either he wasn't kept in those groups, or we didn't spy outside of the reported offences. It highlights actually the issue with personal whats-app messages and business use - as its likely that he retained historic messages as a minimum. 5min 10sec on wards - Jordan eluding directly to Parson's behavior making the whole thing significantly worse

I paraphrased what he said / eluded to, but yes. I don't have the time to watch it back. But it was along the lines of: initial discussions with the efl indicating that it wasn't that serious and that we expulsion wasn't on the table, that we agreed to the accelerated timescale but it was very chaotic / everyone was travelling, so we got it wrong. Middlesbrough used the situation to get a pass to the play off final. Who can blame them, we'd have probably done similar in their shoes (which was a further shocking thing for him to have said). If it has actually been cut from the recording, i would say that is very telling.

Well, the evidence for the supposition that matters is all behind closed doors unfortunately - but i'd suggest the above is just about the only way the timescales involved make sense (or at least the only version i have seen that is remotely credible), and they also marry up with what Parson's said at the fans forum more recently (even if that was incredibly unprofessional from him and poorly advised given the ongoing proceedings). Whistleblower: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jason-taylor/stationen/trainer/126892/plus/1 https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/25807772.eckert-explains-plan-solve-southamptons-set-piece-problems/

The issue is our incredibly naive / incompetent handling of the whole affair - the damage was done immediately by Parsons decision making and response to the initial accusation. If we fail to get promoted this season (which lets be honest is sub a 50% likelihood) it will haunt the club for years, perhaps decades or generations if we fail to recover and rebuild.