Saint86

Hellberg likely gone by Christmas. Absolute joke of a manager, and he's already played his crying card.

Get what you deserve boro, get ready for next season because the saints will be gunning for you.

I only know one Leeds fan, he messaged me immediately to say it was a harsh punishment and extend sympathies for it. Never had an issue with Leeds fans tbh, they were classy on the tube coming back from the 23/24 play off final as well.

I have wondered this. It's the Ipswich game at Eastleigh that makes me suspicious.

I don't disagree overly. Boro getting promoted opens up the EFL to more potential legal challenges. Next year in the prem will be brutal to survive in. Spurs won't be the mess they are again under de zerbi, forest won't have a European distraction and are likely to make some mega money on players like MGW and Anderson - and those 2 players show their recruitment is solid. Palace maybe will struggle? But then equally, they've had mateta out half the season, guehi left them in Jan, they've been distracted by Europe, and glasner has already announced he's checked out... The league was a mere distraction for them. Promotion could really be a mixed blessing this season. But we do absolutely have to get promoted next year. Could this be a bit like Leeds getting beaten by us, having a great year in the champ, and then getting promoted and staying up?

Southgate is probably the perfect opposite of tonda, son in law choir boy off the pitch, tactically inept on it, and a bottler to boot. No thanks.

Should Leeds have sacked bielsa?

The players can't really be that angry with him in truth. Not if they engage their brains. Before he came in they were staring at relegation... So they can't really blame him for fluffing up a promotion chance they wouldn't have had without him 🤷 . In summary, they were shit without him, incredible with him, and then he shit the bed and we went full circle... They make a fitting group I'd say.

👆👆👆 This in spades. As an aside, is guan still itk? If so, his comments about tonda the other day were interesting I thought.

Not sure that's true. Without Eckert we were nowhere near the playoffs and potentially facing a relegation scrap 🥲. Eckert almost got autos.

Son in law approach is a good summation. Having cocked up the handling of the entire thing, we now seem to have allowed Blackmore to become our public face and conscience... Which sadly is another error as he's just running around attacking the club, condemning Eckert for bullying (with no actual evidence as yet), and calling the club morally repugnant in seemingly every interview / peice he does. None of which is helping the club and is in fact doing the opposite - we need to stop feeding the media scrum and try to stabilise the club and take our own action. The media has already had more than it's pound of flesh, and the club's BBC correspondent doesn't need to keep feeding it with more negative takes about the club.

Mate, are you serious? He has 46 games to watch players etc., by the end of the season - all the data in the world. You've just highlighted his impressive attention to detail and analytical skills to counter players... But apparently you think that's happened without any credit given to his analytical skills 🤦‍♂️ There are some seriously gaslit people at this point tbh. For the love of god, would you lot snap out of the media blitz and realise how out of proportion this has all got, and how warped your perspectives have got. Southampton is your club!!! We broke the rules and scouted opposition training inside an arbitrary window that doesn't exist anywhere else in major European football. A bit naughty, cheating for the EFL rules sure, but fairly minor in significance to many offences that go on inside football, and absolutely amateur hour by the club re execution and handling... but then equally Woop de bloody do - bielsa did it for an entire season (rule or no rule) and he got a 200k fine and no ban. Nothing has significantly changed in terms of the advantage gained in 7years - we have just been stitched up horrendously and given a ludicrous punishment. We should have received a fine and small points deduction and the whole world knows it. But outside this, Eckert remains a class coach on the pitch. And how anyone can dismiss his analytical skills, attention to detail, and his drilling of the side is beyond me. Some people are making out like analysis of players and team tactics offers zero useful evidence until it's the last training day before the game, and then that's the only data that matters... And then trying to say that tonda's run was due to that? So what - hes a superb analyst for that last training session, but then completely useless for the other 99% of data available? (I.e. the actual matches) 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ I guess it was a bloody good job those last sessions showed that all the teams we scouted suffered against 4-2-3-1 formations with target men centre forwards! That was a close call, we'd have been stuck doing 5 at the back with AA up top for the rest of the season if it wasn't for these secret spying sessions - tonda far to clueless to have figured that out without cheating right? 😵 If he is guilty of bullying it's a separate issue. 100% not acceptable. But telling staff to buck up the quality of their work is not bullying. I am yet to see actual evidence of bullying, just more media blitz against the club and further trial by media that our own fans are quite happy to jump onto the bandwagon of. What I've seen is a reference to salt expressing morale uncertainty, and an unrelated reference to Eckert saying to improve the quality of the scouting reports. And ultimately, even now, everyone involved is due a fair hearing on what's actually happened - even parsons 🌚😐. Besides, with this media shit storm, the fa will ban him, almost certainly. The EFL and the fa have to look tough on smaller and vulnerable clubs because they do absolutely sod all to the real cheats.

You'll have to bear with Lighthouse I fear, reading his earlier post I can only assume he's on his way to fratton to grovel for an apology from the fans of our fishy friends over what some of you rapscallions have been writing on here. After that he's likely heading to Wembley to repeat the feat to Boro and Hull fans tomorrow. 😛😝 Said in jest lighthouse, please don't ban me for committing acts of bad banter on the forum (I think we've all had enough of Draconian sanctions this past week 🥲)

I agree with your overall sentiment. Although I am struggling to read 3 and 4 and wonder how on earth parsons is still here.

There appears to be a Phill parsons sized hole at the top of the club. Funnily enough, I'm not even sure that sacking him would change it... We might even be in the territory of "no leadership is better than bad leadership"... Regardless, we need someone serious in at top level, be it as CEO or elsewhere.