Saint86

Not to go all MLG on you, but you don't know that it"will be" an issue. He's done nothing so far to indicate he's kicking off or agitating for a move - if anything he's come across as one of the nicest guys in football and someone who very much lives for the day and whatever life brings.

He signed on 1st September, Still got sacked on 2nd November. In that time, he was only played in 8 league games and had a managed introduction to the first team - playing only 390minutes of the available circa 760mins (8x95)... It's pretty harsh to aportion him blame for "the Will Still era" 😅. The guy is 27/28, has had a pretty rocky life in football, has never downed tools at saints, isn't kicking off or agitating for a move, and is well within his rights to back himself for a prem move and to say he'd consider it if it became available. Personally, I hope he makes it with saints as I suspect that's his best real chance of having a good couple of seasons in the prem - so a win win for all parties. But he has a long contract and we'd get good money for a sale. As with Charles, he isn't irreplaceable and we'll get well paid if he moves... In some ways, it's a good time to sell him.

One thing Tonda has never done is target his own players and undermine / bully them in public etc... if he was like that he'd be getting praise similar to lampard who does it to his players at every club when things aren't going well.

All evidence to the contrary for spors' only summer transfer window to date? 😅

Exactly this, I don't think it's rocket science or needs to have loads read into it. He's not agitating for a move, but if the right offer comes in he'll consider it... As would anyone in any walk of life 😅

Absolutely no chance 😅

I guess it could also be the case that players aren't committing now until after the Eckert verdict, but he either wants to be at saints or he doesn't... We don't owe him anything, and as GS says, he isn't worth having without pre season 🤷

Could see him winding up in the MLS for a couple of years at this rate, that or hearts are short a striker. Saints shouldn't be rolling over to give him a new contract after his antics.

Absolute AI savagery 🤣

2 points on this. Is that an actual fact that it happened re the Eastleigh kit - i.e., is it in the official record? There was a lot of rumour and media sensationalism at the time of the story breaking - but the official line seems to be that we were sent CCTV footage, not that we sent an undercover intern in Eastleigh training gear? If that was official there is no way the club could argue there was a confusion over rule breaking... And as has been said to death - the scouting and analyst team are the ones responsible for conducting scouting and for any internal management of their team (or any bullying and coercive behaviour)...there has been no evidence in the official report which shows messages or communications from Eckert to the analysts. There were messages from members of the analysts team directly encouraging the junior intern (which could be argued as pressuring him). But as far as I am aware, that is what all the messages show? So no evidence of guilt for bullying against Eckert and he has never accepted responsibility for bullying? I also find it incredibly unlikely that eckert micro managed the analyst team, he would have told them who to scout, what to watch for etc... but not specifics on when to do it, what undercover gear to wear, how to travel etc etc. They are a fairly large team themselves that report their analysis into the first team 🤷 So all of that was down to the internal management of the analysts team - they knew and broke the rules, and it's not a surprise the team head left promptly after this all happened (the only person to leave I believe). Or put another way, the first team manager of a side playing and travelling every 3-4 days post the international break, didn't have time to do the micro management of the entire analyst team and it's management structure.

If we take legal action, that is exactly the kind of argument we can make 😅

Shows we haven't learned from our handling of the EFL charges though. Really isn't rocket science from the club to respect the overseeing organisations FFS 🤦‍♂️

Slightly worryingly, I don't think Scienza hasn't looked particularly happy in any of the preseason footage so far? Considering he is also one of our star players and the fans' favourite, I'd say coverage has been fairly Spartan of him to date. Could be reading into it too much, but when combined with the news of potential moves to Italy / prem / Brazil (I.e. no smoke without fire) it's not clear that he'll be here come October. Edit... Saying all that, it's surely a good sign that Jander and Leo are 8 and 7? You would like to think they will both be here come October now!

Agreed. Seems a sensible move for him. Hopefully we include a good sell on fee as I can see him doing well there and then earning a bigger move in a couple of seasons.

I know right, and the best part is that we're not in the running for it 🤣😂