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Never sure which side of the goal he's going to miss, or who he's going to punch on the way there.

Is the cross upside down?

Likely they'll finish 8th....! On the subject of the foul on Lallana, did you notice how he didn't know which part of himself to clutch in [apparent] agony because he'd been tripped (leg?) and landed on his side/shoulder/head (no damage there, then), flopped onto his back, etc? Most entertaining, I thought.

Apologies for digging up and dusting off an old thread, but I felt this is now becoming relevant again, what with us winning matches, an' all. Is anybody performing a 'superstitious' habit a little more conscientiously this season, in an attempt to help maintain our good start? For my part, I have an old Saints mug that I won't drink from in the run up to matches - I found last season that Saints lost whenever I used it! [sorry!]

Isn't he at Bournemouth on loan?

... for now!

Indeed, you make some excellent points here. The Yes camp was always coming from behind [in the polls], so the No camp may have been a little blasé about the outcome until the last few days, when it got close. It's generally agreed the Yes camp plotted a better campaign, but as you say, it's hard to promote the status quo as an exciting prospect. I think both sides were guilty of not being specific about future plans, which then gave ammunition to each other, causing even more uncertainty among the 'undecideds'.

Any chance someone could go out there and clean it up?

Thank you

It's really not as simple as that. The choice was yes or no, but the ideas behind those choices were far-reaching and complex. I thought my post indicated that - didn't you read it before replying? Promises CAN be broken within a short time: a simple implied "we changed our minds" or "we didn't mean it" from a leader is enough, isn't it? That's what the message seemed to be. As for the 'crying' quote from hypochondriac, no, that isn't happening - it's not the Scottish way. People up here tend to just get on with things, I've found since I moved up a few years ago. There is acceptance of the result, although lots of people didn't like the outcome (about 45% or more of those who voted: 1.6 million is a big voice) - that's permitted, I believe. Just like party politics where Labour supporters always bemoan the fact that a Tory Gov't gets in, and vice versa. No accusations of 'crying' there. Voicing concerns over what may come next is a reasonable response from those who lost - surely on a football web forum that's a common occurrence? No different in politics. The feeling up here is that the call for independence will not go away. Whether people support that or not is their choice.

It's not that he was expecting everything to happen within hours of a result... he just wasn't expecting promises/vows to be broken within hours of the result, which is what has happened. Some backtracking since then from Cameron, Milliband et al, in an attempt to remember the 'union'. A lot of comments on here criticising Salmond, but SNP membership has almost trebled since the result, showing that strong feelings supporting independence still exist. Salmond repeatedly stated the referendum was not about any individual (including himself) or political party, nor was it about anti-English sentiments, it was about SELF-DETERMINATION. He HAS accepted the result of the referendum - doesn't mean he has to like it. He still supports independence and would still like to see it; a referendum was only one route available and he is now suggesting others which may work. Nothing wrong with that. In fact, I suggest he would be seen as a weakling if he just gave up on the idea. On the subject of 'trickery', here are some interesting facts. There are many 'No' voters who have since declared regret at voting thus (and now saying if they knew then what they know now, they would have voted 'Yes'), saying they felt duped by the Westminster establishment's false promises and, quite frankly, inaccurate campaigning, for example: - active Better Together campaigners were telling pensioners they would not receive their pensions in the event of independence - not true as pensions were already declared 'safe'; - the threat of price rises and 'head office' moves for major companies was used as a persuasive argument - those companies 'quoted' have recently said they were seriously misquoted (eg. Asda said prices "might go up or down", but only the first part was quoted by BT); - The BBC were proved to be wholly biased during the campaign, even banning certain songs for fear they might encourage 'Yes' votes; - Better Together have since admitted that scaremongering WAS a campaign tactic, despite frequently and regularly denying it during the lead-up. Nobody said Scotland couldn't be an independent nation, economically, the question was whether it SHOULD be. That brings the heart into it, not just the head. The future is always uncertain, even in the grand old mighty UK, so nothing new in that idea. Seems to me a lot of people were scared into worrying too much about leaving the 'support' of the Westminster government, showing them to be (in my opinion) weak-minded individuals. Regarding comments about vote-rigging: well, there has been evidence produced demonstrating this did happen, but the police have said they won't be investigating it. To be honest, I'm not convinced it was on a large enough scale to have made a difference to the overall result - a turn-around of over 200,000 would have been needed. Therefore, it's irrelevant and can be ignored by both sides. Of course, many people voted 'No' because they want the UK to be a single united country, which is a fine and decent reason for doing so. Just like many people voted 'Yes' because they wanted Scotland to be an independent nation, simple as that.

Why not post some video of him kicking on here. I'm sure we could offer some constructive advice. Turns out I have some experience in coaching football, including goalkeepers (and rugby kicking specialists), so happy to assist from a distance...

Dean Saunders?

I don't mind that so much. I remember a few seasons ago (v Everton? Redknapp in charge?) when a shot was taken, straight at the keeper, they attacked with us too far forward, scored, lost vital points, relegated (I think). No doubt someone on here will remember better than me. Comments I remember at the time included: "He should have hoofed it into the stand".

Yass, good win

1 min + stoppages ... 4 mins stoppages!!

First game was v Bristol Rovers (I think), Boxing Day 1975 - I was ["very young"]. And of course that was THE Cup season. I feel privileged to have seen that team. Mainly saw games during Chris Nicholl's first year in charge (85-86?). Memories include Shilts yelling "George...GEORGE" at George Lawrence ALL the time, poor fella; also Saints v Man Utd in the snow with an orange ball - won 1-0, still got the programme somewhere. The Dell was a fantastic atmosphere, but my 2 matches at St Mary's (v West Brom and Everton-with-Rooney), has amazing atmosphere too, both in Northam stand so right among all you good singers/chanters...!! Oh, and I was a 'forest' lad too so it was 'up the Dell' for me.

A) message to Taider? Even if it's slightly after the event. B) message to the board? Get this man's contract sorted!

A goodly rant. Although, like his team, he seemed to run out of puff after 2 minutes

Stats taken directly from Sportinglife match report. Possession stat slightly surprised me too, though 'toon had plenty of [pathetically pointless] ball late in the 1st half. Maybe that swung it?

A few significant stats: Shots on target: 7 (scored 4 of them!) Shots off target: 3 Possession: 47.6% (compare with last year...) and most importantly... Goals for: 4 Goals against: 0

Inconclusive cos 'toon were $h1te imo, but looked sticky a couple of times - better teams would have punished us.

They had plenty of possession towards the end of the first half but never looked like doing anything with it. 2nd half, as soon as we got the ball we looked dangerous. Comfortable win.

What a goal!!!!!! Fantastic team effort, great finish!

Up front, we're getting more time than we know what to do with atm