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I agree in terms of home support the PL seems to be pretty awful across the board. But in terms of away support i'd disagree, think quite a few clubs in the PL still have fairly decent away followings.

Our support is atrocious like you say, because we have more and more people like that women going to away games in particular it seems, going to football to stand in silence and be outraged at men swearing. You might hear naughty words at football, if it's that traumatic for your ears, maybe the women in question is better suited to other entertainment outlets like ten pin bowling or the cinema.

You would never have guessed it was a quarter final last night in the Itchen North at least where i was, can't speak for Northam/Kingsland, there was me thinking a quarter final against Liverpool under the lights could have been good. Came in late missing the first goal, and even when we were 1-0 up the vast majority around me were standing in silence like cardboard cutouts. Sad to see what's happened to our support really.

Good to see the club using it to lower the price of match day tickets instead of subsidising travel coaches.

Unbelievable McDonnell has the gale to say that, but very typical of the left to throw around emotive sh*t instead of actually scrutinising concrete policy. Labour are the ones who play race politics, and i suspect it will get them across the line in Oldham. Did get a bit carried away and stuck a fiver on UKIP to win.

This might be hard for you to get your head round, but give it a go anyway- basically some people go to games to both watch live football, and to be part of a decent atmosphere, which traditionally involves some noise and a variety of songs.

I think one of the main reasons our support seems to have got progressively worse the last year or two is just a lack of decent songs.

Problem is as i understand it we have little control really in the long run how many we let in because if mad Merkel has her way and issues hundreds of thousands of people citizenship/refugee status, surely they then have the right to then come to the UK if we're to stay within the EU and the free movement of people?

In the last year alone there's been 7 serious plots just in the UK alone foiled. Sounds pretty complacent to try and downplay the extent of threat we face.

Who said that? Fact is there are thousands of European men fighting for ISIS, and just like the mass grooming scandals we've seen (which haven't been confined to the UK), something has undoubtedly gone horribly wrong within SOME Islamic communities.

I'll give you that one!

I'm not saying all Muslims are violent, but i'm saying there is a considerable element within the Koran, the history of the expansion of the religion, its ideal in a caliphate etc, which is open to violent interpretation. Again I ask, what are I.S doing that Muhammad did not do/oversee? Surely the person who created the religion and is the divine prophet, is a fair way of scrutinising a religion? Yes it might be a minority- but that doesn't get away from the fact there are thousands of European Muslims fighting for IS, they have support and funding from wealthy Islamic backers etc. Although many British muslims are not carrying out violence and would not wish it on people; SOME could have done more about foreign imams preaching hate against the west in mosques, they could not make the situation worse by singing petitions to ban drawings of Muhammad etc.

The ugly truth is, it's easier for Muslims to interpret the Koran in a violent way. For a start what are IS doing that Muhammad did not a)do himself b)oversee as a warlord. On the other hand whilst violence has been carried out in the name of Christianity granted, Jesus was a long haired hippy. Muhammad butchered those who did not conform to him, he was a militant. It is therefore not unsurprising that some can interpret Islam, through the life of Muhammad, verses in the Koran, Sharia law itself etc, in such a way which justifies these atrocities, and even makes them feel closer to the prophet by carrying out these acts. IS are essentially trying to create an Islamic Caliphate which has been an ideal of the religion since its creation. That's another difference, Islam is a theocratic religion believing governance is the word of God- through Sharia. Christianity and other religions don't have this in the same way. It's probably a reason why SOME Muslims are worse at integrating, because some believe in their own separate law system. I.S is not the only interpretation of Islam, but it certainly is one. You can't have it both ways- cherry picking peaceful verses of the Koran and saying 'that's Islam', and then when people cherry pick the 'bad' parts, saying 'that's not Islam'. I cannot believe the constant denial of people on my Facebook saying 'it has nothing to do with Islam' , 'This is nothing to do with religion' etc etc.

To be fair there was a muslim led march after the Charlie Hebdo shootings...only problem was it was a march AGAINST Charlie Hebdo and purpose was to hand a petition to government (signed by over 100,000 British muslims), to place more restrictions/ban illustrations of the prophet. I mean you couldn't make it up. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2944946/Thousands-British-Muslims-protest-against-Charlie-Hebdo-magazine-publishing-cartoons-Prophet-Mohammed.html

And he was hounded at the time for being a scaremonger to suggest that there was a security threat in opening the doors to hundreds of thousands, coming from a war zone where a group wanting to wage Jihad on Europe are running amok.

Utterly depressing looking to the future. France have over 2,000 Muslims fighting for ISIS, and that's before you even get on to accumulated amount if you count British, Belgium, Dutch, German etc Muslims fighting out there too. In only takes a tiny % of them to come back mad (if they weren't already) and intent on waging a war in Europe for them to cause utter havoc. How have we allowed this to happen? We have allowed, and some on the left have promoted the creation of a society where we have ghettoised separate/divided cultures living apart. And now we have an enemy from within thanks to this, who hold no loyalty or affiliation to Britain/France or wherever. I'm not for a minute saying that's all Muslims, but it only needs a small amount. It's exactly what Enoch Powell warned about- he'd served out in India and had seen what ethnic/cultural division within society looked like, and he feared the same would happen in the UK if we were to have immigration on such a scale where we do not attempt to integrate people into British society sufficiently. In my experiences the ghettoisation/division in France is even worse than here in the UK. Go to somewhere like Marseille or the suburbs of Paris and you can see how we're in this position. Social tensions in France were already f*cking awful before this, dread to think what they're going to be like now. Got a friend in the French police force and he was telling me this last summer how the whole thing has been a ticking time bomb.

Chances of this making members sale on Monday, I would have thought it would..?

The new breed of rebellious student anarchists. Demanding more government spending and higher taxation...

Exactly. People say 'we've always had immigration etc', being completely blind to the fact we have never had it anywhere near the scale we see today. Like you said as well, it's madness for a government to have no control over numbers year on year, because how on earth are you meant to plan infrastructure/schools/healthcare etc if we have no idea? Now is the time we have to decide if we're happy to add over 300,000 every year to our population, and really think long term, whether packing us in to this small island even more densely is going to improve people's standard of living in the long run.

In two different ways. Firstly structurally. MEPs have no power in putting forward legislation. It's effectively a charade of a chamber. Everything put forward comes from the unelected commission (heavily influenced by lobbyists) and if MEPs don't vote in the way the commission want they just bore them into submission by making them vote on the issue again. Also if you look into how some of the commission got to their posts, Cathy Ashton in particular springs to mind, i don't know how anyone could defend it. She was foreign minister of Europe for f*cks sake all through her connections and loyalty to the project. The other main reason why its undemocratic is just look at the EU's history. It's effectively ignored democratic referendums time and time again, the Dutch, French, Irish etc. I forget which one it was after but Martin Schultz famously said 'we must not bow to populism', which pretty much sums up their mentality. They are ideologically hell bent on their project and do not care about the wishes of voters. Although i disagree with it, there is an argument for the economic benefits/influence in the world of being in the EU, but I do not understand at all how an argument can be made that the EU is a democratic/accountable institution.

Will be voting out. Main reasons would be : -I don't view the EU as a democratic and accountable government. This can't be 'renegotiated' because it is the fundamental structure of it. I want to be governed by elected representatives on a national level, not the EU commission made up of people who have often achieved nothing/never been elected to a post in their lives, yet slither their way to the top through proving themselves loyal to the project. -Leaving is the only way to achieve a fair points based immigration system where we can reduce numbers. With unemployment levels in southern Europe numbers are only going to continue to increase year on year unless we leave. -The huge financial cost. 10,000 officials in Brussels are paid more than Cameron. I know its cliche to call it a gravy train but that's what it is. -The project is going in one direction- further integration. We can make a choice whether we get off the train and govern ourselves, and reach out to the wider world, or if we want to tie ourselves to a block of diminishing countries and be governed by a centralised debauched EU. Of course they'd be teething problems initially, re-negotiating trade deals etc would take time, but in the long run it's a no brainer for me. The whole re-negotiation thing is ridiculous, and is just a delaying tactic, Cameron and co desperately trying to keep the lid on things for as long as possible - all that seems to be on the table is a few tinkerings around welfare payments to foreign nationals, which is just the tip of the iceberg. Going to be really interesting to see how it all pans out, and which Tory figures decide to go to the out campaign. Won't hold my breath as most of them are careerists and will very much have that in mind i'm sure. I'd say within the last year or two a lot of my friends and family have begun to move over and are starting to sit on the fence. If the OUT campaign can put forward a positive message and attract some big names, i think it is possible. It will need that though to counter act the inevitable scaremongering that will come from the IN camp. With the much loved likes of Tony Blair, Danny Alexander and Nick Clegg being the big pro EU voices, who knows..

But that's not what you're saying is it? You're saying the result is already a cert and that anyone who thinks there's a fight to be had is mentally delusional. You said that you think most people want to be in the EU on a trading basis- well if that's the case which i think it is, the OUT campaign has every chance to persuade people that we are more likely to have that relationship if we are to become independent and organise free trade arrangements with Europe , then if we're to stay in a political union which is clearly intent on closer integration. Of course it's more likely that with the inevitable scaremongering from big banks, the media, politicians etc (the same ones which said we'd be f*cked if we didn't join the Euro), we vote to stay in. But i see through my friends and family, people are seriously starting to sway towards believing we should leave, and whilst many people i think are sitting on the fence at the moment, depending on how events pan out in the next few months/how effective the out campaign is and which figures join it, there is a CHANCE we vote to leave. Wanting to reduce immigration, have more accountable/democratic government etc appeals to most Brits- but the OUT campaign has got to set out clearly how things would work once we left - in order to counteract the scaremongering and make people feel comfortable enough to make the decision.

That's the point though, these people often aren't interested in 'getting behind the team' but as soon as a hilarious whacky song like that starts they won't shut up. Anyway, glad they enjoyed their 5 minutes of fame on social media.

I did try that, but was no way down to the bottom from the top!

Yep. We were 6-0 up and i was surrounded by people in f*cking stitches whilst they filmed a gimp run around the stand placing a mars bar on people's heads, it went on and on and on. So i called it a day.