St. Jason

every day of the week mate, yes!

that was your favourite point of the whole season???? reading your previous posts this just about sums you up, you praise Lowe yet slag of us fans! hopefully relegation and administration will rid us of you and your dark saviour!

Talking to friends today they said it came from the Burnley stand. I didn't see it, but thats what I've been told!

Please explain mate?? Which paper should I read, about what and why??? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/3344925.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/232663.stm http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=73596&in_page_id=34 Help me out please moooosh, why is my head in the sand????

You say that, evr had a paper cut? Nasty!!!!

So again we have someone slagging of our fans for throwing coins, then say "Not surprised they (Burnley) threw them back"! Get of Saints fans back, ffs, either its out of order to throw coins (which i think it is) or its not! You can't say "my mate got stabbed, so his brother stabbed him, which is understandable"!!!! Sort it out, there were loads of Burnley 'lads' looking for trouble before, during and after the game!!!

You tight b4stard, £1.46!!!!!

The pitch invasion and crowd trouble was top notch ;-)

nothing more to say is there? Lunatic fringe v's pompous, self opinionated snobs!

is it moooosh? The police are always whiter than white aren't they? Never seen a copper charged for misconduct, never seen a copper charged with drink driving, never seen a copper charged with dealing, or rape etc. Exactly, you are one those people that are always on our fans backs. Anti lowe protests "the fans should support the team" marches against the board"the fans should get behind the team". Stop blaming the fans for everything. Yes, violence is not the answer, but in saying that you are saying violence IS the answer "The fans that got hit deserved it"!!! Minor scuffles, I really do think people like you need to get out a bit, visit the real world, come to a council estate and taste REAL life, the struggle, the fight just to survive!

Or Crouch loans them £2m, they still take us into admin and Crouck looses best part of £4m! One massive looser!

Surely we can blame Lowe for letting Pearson go? Surely we can blame Lowe for appointing Jan? Surely we can blame Lowe for sticking with Jan for to long? Surely we can blame Lowe for signing Forecast, Molyneaux, Gasmi, Schneriden, Pulis, Wotton, Smith, Pekhart, Robertson and barely reaching double appearance figures between them?? Surely we can blame for letting the first team stay in hotels for the reading and palace games?? Surely we can blame Lowe for letting coaches go on gardening leave whilst employing even more Dutch??? Surely we can??

I don't know mate, he did sign Rasiak on a 4 year deal, i don't know what thats worth but i'd guess it can't be far of £9k. Also after signing Rasiak and Belmadi (another prem int) he stated 15 June 2006 that "we had a warchest to strengthen"!

I would read the accounts for the last 2 years but unfortunately the last years hasn't been published! Read the accounts for 2004-05, with all those players and profit WE DID GO DOWN, a disgrace! Accounts can be manipulated in which ever way you like, lowe left June 2006, that doesn't mean he has no influence on the accounts on the coming years. players, managers, coaches lowe would of signed/sacked prior to him leaving would still show on future accounts!

But he did add to the overdraft mate when he knew he was going, before he left he signed rasiak, BWP, Belmadi, svensson, Sarmiento, Kevin Miller, Gillet, Surman. Don't get me wrong some of these signings were needed, my point is we do not know what the terms were/are for these players, we do not know what the other players were on and we do not know what sacked and or mutualy departed managers, coaches were on! So even though Rupert left in 2006 his legacy via his contracts were still there!

£40m in debt since Lowe left, are you sure????? How the fooook was that then?? BWP on loan, I thought Lowe signed him from Man City?? Hi earners not brought in, again I thought Lowe signed him from Spuds for £2m on a 4 year contract and also said "this is not the end of our spending, we have a war chest for promotion" Lowe 15th June 2006 - "we have lost £23m a year as a result of relegation, but we are still solvent and have a warchest to strengthen the team" so after Signing Rasiak for £2m in May 2006 we still had a 'warchest'! Not only that bat as Lowe himself said, we're losing £23m a year as a result of relegation, so without promotion admin was always coming!

So the blame still falls at Lowes door then, Lowe and here 12 months, Crouch 6 months and Hone/Deliue 6 months over the last 2 years! The last year didn't have to be like this, yes we had to cut cost's but could we not of kept Pearson on instead of Jan, Wotte, Gore and Killer. Could we not of kept Dyer & John and not signed Forecast, Molyneaux, Liptak, Schneriden, Gasmi, Pulis, Wotton, Smith, Pekhart, Robertson etc. We did not have to do it lowes way, this was Lowes vision, it had been in the making for 4 years. Older, more experienced pro's in Burley and Redknapp tried to tell him a team solely built around the kids would not work, but Lowes knows best. The financial side of the blame may well need to be passed about a bit, but the reason we're second from bottom, facing league 2 with only 3 home wins is because of Lowe!!

No you can't blame him for wanting to give his side of the story, just a shame - A. we were not allowed to voice our opinion in the ground whilst Lowe was here, banners and fans ejected for anti Lowe slogans. B. he didn't try and speak to fans about the troubles Saints were in via the media or fan groups during his recent tenure-ship! C. He still fails to accept ANY responsibility at all for anything, quite happy to talk about our fancy stadium (crippling debt) excellent catering (only 30% open now) our flashy radio station and insurance co. (all sold of as losing money) All for open debate, and blame should be attributed to all relevant parties, but Lowe is all about Lowe. This charm offensive is nothing to do with SFC and who is really to blame, this is operation 'save Rupert's skin in the city' simples ;-)

Not likely going to happen though SoG, everyone has an agenda Fry & Admin = find a buyer. Lowe = deflict blame. Wilde = run and hide. Crouch = save the club & Possible chairmanship. Us fans = support and save! Note. this is what I think their personal agenda's are not what I think they do or get!

Listen mate, i'm not blaming Lowe 100% but look at the BIG picture. Lowe says when he left there was still money in the bank, yes, that was the final parachute payment from the Premiership, that why there was money still in the pot. he say's everyone else over spent but he signed Rasiak and said he'd keep LM in his role. Lowe is also the man that signed Forecast, Schneriden, Molyneaux, Gasmi, Pulis, Smith, Robertson this season and none have barely played. He also authorised the team to stay in hotels for the weekend at Reading and Palace. He signed JP and Wotte, payed of JP and put another 2 coaches on gardening leave and thats all just this season. Then look back over his record, relegation year, sturrock, wigley & redknapp, how much did that cost and how much were we still paying them once relegated. 1st year in the coke, spends Millions on his vision (dome, players suite, eye clinic, scw, clifford etc) with SCW etc etc etc. Yes Wilde overspent and appointed a board he couldn't control, don't really see where Crouch overspent as a % was out of his own pocket, but for Lowe to blame everyone and everything except him is cr4p! All in my opinion of course! Ps. Isn't it funny how we, as customers, haven't heard a squeek from Lowe all season, then all of sudden bang, everywhere!!

Without an agenda???? Surely his agenda is to clear his name, or atleast try to???

The only continuity Saints have had over the last 12 years is LOWE! Continually made stupid managerial appointments, continually created stupid experiments and continually wasted our clubs money! Hopefully we will now have a club that Lowe continually stays away from!

here here, buy this man a pint!

I agree with some but not all - A. Agree, never said Pearson was the greatest but 100% deserved this season to prove himself, and a much safer bet than Jan. B. Don't really see what Crouch is to blame for. He backed Wilde but Wilde has/had a personal fortune, had a plan, a manifesto etc, why would he not believe him. He appointed Dodd & Gorman, saw it wasn't working, moved them on and appointed Pearson! C. Agree, not everything, just most of it, Sturrock, Wigley, Redknapp, relegation!