Baird of the land

I meant away to Middlesbrough. we won against Leicester because we dragged him off at ht. I hardly look back at the turn of the year and go our midfield of downes and jander were bossing it against Middlesbrough/pompey/sheff utd/watford/hull. His peak moments coincided with him being rotated in and out later in the year.

I don't recall watching and thinking he's pressing like jander does. Next time I see the ditch play I'll watch him closer. I've already pointed out games post tonda where he wasn't great. Maybe this season he'll play consistently at his high level every wed and sat and I'll change my tune.

I've seen De Jong for Holland and i can't say he ever reminded me of Jander but equally can't say i've ever watched Barcelona or Ajax. I think he's a good player but stick to my opinion that he is being overhyped on the basis of selective amnesia of his overall season output.

The Middlesborough he started and was hardly good. There was definitely a ropey period i remember earlier in the season too, ironically before we were able to start rotating him out for Charles. In regards your earlier comment, i'm not sure i see the comparison between those players but i fully accept he can counterpress. His best games imo have come in games where we had less of the ball (Coventry/Fulham/Arsenal) but at this level where we tend to have more of the ball, where a CM like chrles is very valuable.

I just highlighted that one game because he looked like Ali Dia in it. There were many other less than impressive performances. Not sure what team you were following but he most certainly didn't keep him out of the team. Shea was injured for 3 months but before that he started and after they regularly rotated with one starting one game and the other the next. Their minutes played per league game when fit was level at 67.

Given how much we seem to hate playing Bristol City he must be guaranteed a few goals against us this season.

A) because some people make out that he's so much more than that B) There is a forgetfulness of games like Leicester last year.

If he's a defensive mid then that's fine play him there instead of Downes. We don't need 2 DM in 95% of the games in the championship we need a midfielder like Charles in the second CM slot.

Then he should be playing the Downes role. In this league in a lot of the games we need a midfielder with the ability to get assists/goals.

Jander seems massively overhyped to me for a midfielder who offers so little going forward.

Yeah i'd much prefer to have lost Jander of the CM's

Massive loss imo. Hoping we invest properly in a replacement as our current CM options don't cut it in offering the box to box threat Shea does.

Absolutely gutted he's going. We'll need to spend big to replace as none of the other CM offer anything going forward

Wonder where is vipotnik going then?

I’m curious have the Spanish just quietly ignored the judge’s ruling and for obvious political necessity done their best to pressure as migrants to leave as they could.