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Well, 3 of 'em anyway. And gold badge. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/southampton-fc-are-all-in-839343.aspx

I would have thought most now accept that terracing certainly wasn't to blame and for many it never was the reason for the disaster. Liverpool are entitled to never wanting to see standing areas return to Anfield, that was a terrible tragedy to hit the people of that city but that shouldn't stop anyone else making their own decision about it. They'll probably only ever be offered seats when visiting away grounds. Safe standing is a safer option to what we get in today's stadiums of standing in seated areas, there's no doubt.

Yeah and AC Milan (is that his club, there's been links before?) and Inter, Juve, etc., etc. Didn't notice the symbol but did notice the club badge was silver. I too like our 'original' red and white stripe kit with navy shorts and socks. I'd have no problem if we went back to that, it looks far better imo. And don't worry about it being 'p*mpey' blue because their traditional colours are pink, we'd just be reclaiming it WTFILN

Of course, someone's got to pay for it, and no boubt over here it will be the fans, but in Germany they managed to build a number of big new stadiums but still kept the prices down in the safe-standing areas. I caught a bit of Danny Kelly on TalkSport yesterday evening and they were doing a whole show on German football on the back of the 2 teams coming to Wembley for the Champions League Final. They were looking at how they've managed to rebuild the national side and seen their top club sides emerge as some of the most powerful in Europe and also how the Bundesliga boasts the highest attendances and best atmospheres. They reeled off the cheapest season ticket prices at all the top clubs and it was staggering. From something like £65 to around £150 - £75 at Bayern Munich - this was because they could offer safe-standing areas, so it can be done. Incidentally, some fan contacted the show and said his Blue Square season ticket at (I think it was) Billericay cost more than a season ticket at a few of the big Bundesliga clubs. We are mugs.

Yeah Tokes, I realised that was the point you were making, I was just backing it up really. A few years back I would have said it would never have had a chance because of the emotion of Hillsborough but if anything I think the recent documentary removes an obstacle for safe standing now. The reasons against just don't stack up anymore. Safe standing with barriers in front of every space is far safer than when fans jump out of their seats when a goal is scored - or when you can't get thousands of fans to sit down in them in the first place. Short of locking everyone down like in some theme park rollercoaster, they'll never keep fans seated if they don't want to be. The tide is turning and I believe more influential people now want to see it happen, it works.

Well if that documentary the other night only highlighted the reason Hillsborough happened was because of poor Policing/crowd control, overcrowding and fences preventing escape. I would say none of that is an issue in today's game and really impossible to happen again. Safe standing is so far removed from terracing back then that the argument against is ridiculous.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/exclusive-championship-clubs-set-to-push-for-safestanding-trials-8626274.html A real momentum growing now, been in the news for a few days and gaining more support. Go on NC offer Saints as a 'guinea pig' for the Premier League - make the Chapel safe standing, could be a 'proper' home end

Personally I would ban any song that mentioned the 'P' word but if it has to be sung then you are right, that would make more sense. I'd also change "poor" for "small" (f'kin minnows!) and "sign" to "get". Can't argue we need more variety though.

Tragic. Condolences to Chappers and his family. RIP Little Teddy.

Ahem, that rose to nearer 300,000 not so long ago. Anyway, it's quality, not quantity, dontcha know?

If so that could get messy and the prospect of a buggered pre-season. Again.

Well, in light of the unrest and latest breaking news let's hope Luke Shaw's signature is drying on that contract.

If we believe everything we've heard then the Markus Liebherr investment wasn't just about the football club but also the eventual development of the riverside area. Maybe this is the overiding interest now for the Liebherrs while Cortese has the football club as his priority? I'd keep the 'Don', he's certainly not had trouble getting things done up to now, and just hope it's smoothed out with the family.

Bet they were banking on that 'bumper' gate money tomorrow. Shame.

Black doesn't seem that out of favour, they've not long given the St Mary's stadium reception area a makeover and it's predominantly black. I wouldn't think too many would be surprised to see our second kit next season black maybe with silver badge and trim like the SMS decor, who knows they might even do a 'Cardiff' on us and do it as the home one!

Wahey!

Free to be used and abused.

You should ask why the change of heart and remind him that when were in administration and on the verge of going pop you couldn't move for skates wishing us dead and how they were going to "dance on our grave". And when we dipped into L1 on -10 (still getting crowds in the 20,000s mind) and they were in the Prem (struggling to fill their little ground) we were all in our "rightful places". Strange. SHA-LA-LA. DFCSBs. WTFILN? And "inbred", said the thick-sister-bothering-skate who lives on a little island.

"Your cage's too big for you, your cage.........................."

"debt free" Has the countdown for Admin No.4 started yet?

Yeah, bit of a schoolboy error and was 3 posts and out! Reckon we'll be going all big global brand on our shiny new shirts..........................'apr' is a plumbing firm in Oxford!

Isn't the 'apr' sponsorship up?

BTW, Bottle of Charmagne £2.99 from Aldi. Cheap skates.

They missed a trick there, they could have saved themselves £50 and got TCWTB to do that for them instead like he did at SMS. No champagne required.