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Why? This is not an indicator of a popularity contest involving the guy who is responsible for the overall running of the club - what possible business reason could lead you to come to that conclusion? It's a ludicrous swipe - totally unsubstantiable by reality! If corporate seat sales are poor then look to the marketing managers, look to the caterers but, probably more pertinently, look to the economy? Granted all these are appointed by the HR manager appointed by the chairman but how far down is he going to be held directly responsible for individual appointments..there's graffiti on the bog walls - Cortese out?! To answer the original poster's question, no, I don't think it is but I've never met any of them face to face but I did have an objection to Lowe coming back on the basis that he'd flucked up before. My only requirement from a chairman is that they do the job well and, ideally, not parrot themselves as a media figure as some throughout the leagues have done. Just make sure the tools and the finance are there and he'll be doing his job.

I promise I'll mark it first time I need to take a dump...it will then be a fittingly symbolic headstone....stinking, decaying and ultimately leaving no legacy.

I tend towards this view...I've heard all the conspiracy theories but wouldn't trot them out as fact...nobody actually knows and agendas drive opinions. Ultimately when an employee and a manager don't see eye to eye there's usually only one winner...in this case it's worked out for all parties including Newcastle and I'll clap him at the start in gratitude for the foundations that he helped to lay here and then hope that he goes home miserable!

I must be...and now even ,I with my boredom threshold being wherever you want it to be, am bored by your lack of any real fun response beyond childlike repetition and distortion of, not my, but your own words. It's, once again, 'Like shooting fish in a barrel'

Yes - your remark casts a derogatory light in the context you used it. No I didn't suggest that you'd been to one - I inferred that you might have failed to. The only higher ground I would claim is by being a Saints fan rather than a P*mpey fan - do I have that higher ground? I think the content is far more important than the spelling in any post but as you lack any kind of cogency in either it's difficult (given the smell of fish) to resist having the free shots you keep serving up.

Or, more pertinently - shooting fish in a barrel?

Excuse me...I was the one questioning your literacy! We both thought that the red brick comment was derogatory to those universities and it was in tune with your being less than complimentary about NA so not a great leap to be made to make the connection? Regardless of intellectual worth or lack of it I still smell fish...

The winder wound ...read your comment and tell me how it could be construed as constructive? Is this supposed to be complimentary about the teaching abilities of said institutions? They're not great at educating in the PO code, perhaps, or is this considered good where you come from? NB Chestnut;)

Yes thank you - do you know what the Kamasutra is?

You made a disparaging comment about red brick universities andI thought - perhaps he went to Oxbridge and was super snobby about former Polytechnics but then I looked at some of the spelling, alliteration, grammar etc and deduced that you didn't get in to university and were maybe bitter about that The rest was just pointing out where he got his degrees and that as I'd not set eyes on the University of Salford I had no idea how or from what it was constructed. Also my inclination was to say skate on the wind-up...what does that tell you about your posting style? Happy to help!

So you didn't get in to university then? Degrees in physiotherapy and psychology from University of Salford....I've no idea of the masonry colour

This...he says as much as he wants to say and is eloquent enough to wrap it up in many different ways

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A point well made....I did put money in various buckets but more in the hope that it would buy us time until someone came in with a realistic bid. The big difference with us though was that we had tangible assets and a fraction of the baggage that goes with them down the road...that's not blind loyalty, it's what made us attractive to ML...he saw it as a no-lose scenario. Compare that with what you see down there!

Obviously he'll be short of cash...... More skate sh it stirring from the OP

I've just got one...give me until the Xmas after and I'll tell you what I've worked out. Happy with it though...had mostly communicators (E90, E70, N900 etc) and this is much easier and user-friendly. I sort of understand the windows system so even for a Luddite technophobe it's been relatively painless. Need to work out how to move the cursor thingy to correct typos without having to backspace and delete and I'll be set. Nokia Drive is nigh on as good as my 940 TomTom...and it plays through the speakers. Sorry, only have the basic extra apps, to me they're dead clever!

Indeed - the Echo invite comment and I respond, it's my anodyne response

Thank you for your valuable insight

Not an excuse at all, just what happens in business when you strip away the agendas. No I don't think it's acceptable to withold money on a whim - can you point out for me where it says that is the case? I have run and owned a number of businesses over the years and have been on both sides of commercial disputes, sometimes you or the other party has to walk away and that can happen at any stage. Sometimes the court adjudicates - I don't know what the issue was in this case but it was not presumably worth adding legal costs to go to court - it's a commercial decision that was probably made by a project manager - if it cost the club money then that manager has probably paid the price. It's not a big story...unless you add agendas as the Echo and numerous posters on here seem happy to do.

1) Junior reporter told by his bosses to write story - probably he is a good lad and a Saints supporter and probably wasn't going to risk losing his job by refusing 2) Club has commercial dispute with supplier and witholds part payment - commercial argument ensues ending in court action which the club (customer) decide they won't defend because it's good money after bad. 3) The end

Pardew is welcome - we owe him a lot for the foundations he put down and the day out at Wembley. The only manager I feel real animosity to is Redcrap...I can take his lack of ability to keep us up..just, I can take where he came from and then returned to - if I try really hard but what I can't take is him saying 'is 'Eart was never in the job' - the clunt took the money and I'll despise him for ever for that. Most of the short-termers were out of their depth but Lawrie's a legend, I liked the Nicholl era enormously, Dave Jones was desperately unlucky, Pearson also for different reasons. Whispering Dave is welcomed every week, wee Gordon whenever he wants will be welcome. Hoddle I could sort of understand but he lost so many people's respect..mine included. The Dutch pair did their best... So I'd probably not clap...Gray, Wigley, Sturrock, Burley and Branfoot...nor Gorman, Basset and Wise... Doddsy's a legend and still very much a Saint so is assured of a rapturous reception...Bally, Ted still get clapped just with a mention! Have I missed many..we seemed to have manager for a month compretition in the Lowe era?

I genuinely appreciate the attempt at explanation but what is the point? I don't have the internet skills to dig out the various 'qualifications' and experience that he had on his arrival but can rememberr thinking that he was well-connected on a number of levels...team management obviously not being one of them! We've had good and bad transfer signings in his time with us....who decides who it was on the committee that mooted the names. I think that Jonno was probably the only one with a direct blood line to NA...oh and Billy Sharp? I'm guessing the rest are a combination of recommendation, good or bad scouting and being as scientific as it's possible to be as to whether they'll fit in on game, personality etc with our squad. Some (Barny and Billy Sharp spring to mind - Dickson (he had made L1 team of the year the previous season) were bought with getting us out of the division as quickly as possible and providing depth of L1/NPC squad quality - others - Ricky, Fonte, Punch, Richardson perhaps were bought on more long term thinking. This, of course, being with the benefit of hindsight...in two years time what will we be saying about the current crop of signings? Seeing Vlaar, Buttner et al reminds me that we tried to sign players for the PL...who chose them? Who knows?

Now being from his date of appointment?

Yes his team management CV is pretty dire but surely that isn't the job he's employed to do? I read the OS and a few threads when he joined and thought that he'd fill the 'link between' job admirably...his behind the scenes and coaching CV seems (or seemed) to fit - I'm mystified as to why he's become a hate figure? Perhaps someone can enlighten me? I would be worried if I thought that he was being lined up to take over the 1st team job but (unless anyone knows...that's an important word by the way..I'll say it again - knows) different what's the issue? Genuine question?

If anyone has a spare ticket I'd be grateful if you could pm me? Happy to pay a little extra to help with travel costs... Thank you