JackanorySFC

A few of the more loony of you seem to be a tad presumptuous, I'm not a banker - I work in media so trust me, whilst I get paid well it's nowhere near banking land! I'm just trying to provide balance to those here who've never met a banker but seem to genuinely hate them? Those here that seem to like to use abuse and insults rather than reasoned debate seem to be very jealous, almost aggressively so. No wonder this country produces so few winners when, judging by some responses on here, we hate the idea of anyone being successful, pathetic really. I'm a normal 29 year old bloke who had a teacher for a mum and have a teacher for a gf - I'm incredibly proud of both of them and the jobs they do, if I was clever enough to go to uni maybe I'd have done the same. The fact is I'm not and I didn't so naturally I have to work hard to raise enough cash for a house now the average cost is many times the average wage, I dint apologise fir wanting an average house so realising I need to earn more than average money yo get there. I just get annoyed with jealousy (clearly not of me but of people like bankers that work seriously hard and fet oaid well without ever meeting them) or People saying I've forgot my roots, you what? I still live here because I love our city, it would be far easier to live in London?

Do you genuinely think I hard working father of 2 youve never met is a c u n t purely because he's a banker and likes to get a round in? So much hate?

Some genuinely bizarre responses. Do you honestly disagree that if Willy Walsh advertised for air stewardesses at half the pay they wouldn't easily fill every position? The answer is yes, sorry but Unite lost the plot on this and with it public sympathy. Genuinely shocked at anyone that agreed with their stance in the current environment? As for the "me me me" point, yep - don't want to rely on others helping me thanks, happy enough to roll with the punches and go alone. That's another point though, with this example (BA) I had to consider wether my girlfriend and I could potentially miss out on future holidays (ones I've had to pay for unfortunately) then I will use other airlines which I have. Doubt I was the only one that took that stance, BA were 100% right.

For everyone lauding the public sector and castigating the private sector please remember you have this person on yourside, someone that instead of using reasoned debate resorts to hollow insults. A popular theme it seems....

I'm sure your right, but me using 1 person as a sample size is not far off you using yourself and immediate colleagues as examples of public sector pension contributions. Would gave thought the money bankers spend on goods and services is then filtered indirectly into other areas though? Happy to look at said deloitte report though.

I'm part of what will be a very bitter generation yeah, the hours we have to work to get a sniff of a pension and a chance of getting onto the housing ladder will ensure my lifestyle will revolve around working as hard as possible fir the foreseeable future and why I'm happy to take that on my shoulders so my missus can be a teacher and go to work with a purpose at the end of it. I'm just a mush from harefield that works bloody hard paying huge taxes so I can live in a decent part of the city I love, Southampton and live here comfortably with the girlfriend I love in those rare moments I'm not at work. It's not a choice for my generation pal, it's that or Jeremy Kyle life for me and I'm willing to put the effort in!

What about the £50k kitchen from Smallbones (based in Devizes) he bought, or his Aston (designed and made in Gaydon)?

I know, damn bankers spending their wages on a night out eh?! This country would grind to a halt if bankers stayed in counting cash - fact!

Their pay isn't 50% more on average compared to their competitors like the aging BA trolly dollies. Also you can't just walk in off the street and do that job unlike trolly dollies and tube drivers. Have to say I'm surprised though after reading Branson's open letter on Monday.

Cool, so the reports wrong then?

No, funny you ask as going out with him tomorrow after work where he's making a rare appearance. Meeting up with the boys in St Kaths dock, prob the Living Room, from there we'll eat at Hawkesmoor in Cov gdn before Mahiki, he's offered to pay for a table as he's made an absolute killing this weak from betting on falling oil prices! God, that's a lot of suppliers, taxi drivers, chefs, bar and waiting staff we'll be supporting tomorrow! Pop by after the protest no doubt you'll be smashing windows at, he'll be happy to buy you a beer or 2 seeing as he pays your and 10+ of your colleagues their salaries from his taxes alone.

Might set up a business installing them if there's a £3k profit margin, would be amusing making sacks of cash a load of which I'll invest with my stock broker mates, made from tree hugging guardian readers! Need to pay for my non existent private sector pension somehow...

My mistake, the taxpayer. Also public sector employees contributions is actually between 1.5% and 3.5%. Link below: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article3077240.ece

I read this morning that with the new reforms the public sector employee is expected to contribute 3-5% towards their pension with the private sector contributing 19% towards that individuals pot. Clearly these reforms don't go anywhere near far enough...

The current generation (ie me) are grateful to gave a job let alone industry smashing levels of pay and gold plated pensions due to the baby boomers (ie you) enjoying levels this country and it's businesses cannot, repeat cannot afford! if you think we can then I'm shocked... The simple test is, if BA put an ad in each national newspaper offering trolley dolly jobs at £18k a year (£4k more than my friend that works for Virgin, not including the unbelievable free flights packages BA staff got) there would be 000's of applicants, that's a fact and one You cannot deny. The same goes for tube strikers and that nutter Criw, if Boris sacked all of them and offered driver jobs at £30k there would be queues from the tower of London to City Hall! Nothing personal FF, I like your Posts but after the previous strike that affected a stag do to Vegas I was going on every member of the travelling party vowed never to use BA long haul again due to the uncertainty a militant union have when the package enjoyed by BA long haul was so so so much better than their competitors.

Yeah blame the banks, scum, murderers- kick em out to other countries we don't want their taxes! Those horrible bankers that pay more than 50% of their hard earned wages should **** off to another country to spend whatevers left , boo hiss evil! Let's all be nurses, dinner ladies, teachers and traffic wardens, print loads of money but ban anyone earning more than £50k cos their greedy scum, murderers etc!

You can get away with a nice pair of brown brogues (providing your belt is matching in colour) or black shoes with a navy blue suit. Brown/ tan shoes with any other suit colour is unacceptable.

How many more tears should labour have had to turn these inherited Tory policies around? Obviously 13 isn't enough so 20, 25?

To be fair thats a better reply than the usual "Blair was a tiry" response. It's like the years 97-10 never happened?

No, just demolish Parliament, exactly as i said. If I wanted to go into the detail of the gunpowder plot I'd have either gone on a history forum or waited until November.

As a patriot I was embarrassed by that horrible scruffy "protest" in one of our most fantastic public spaces. Nothing against the fella personally and its not his fault we pussy foot around his human rights, but think he should have been bulldozed off there. No doubt the unpatriotic apologists on here wish we carried on where guy Fawkes failed and bullboze Parliament and erect a 50 foot statue of the words "Sorry for being so horrible to everyone" instead.

One question. If it's the nasty Tories that love to hit the poorest hardest, why after 13 years of labour government did the gap between the richest and poorest get bigger than it's ever been?

ht I could go into massive detail to quantify what I do in my 15 hour days, however I thought Id spare everyone the boredom of my working day. I'd love to know how many hours a day you work? Bet your in the "get up at 7, cushty job, home by 7 moan about how unfair it is the people that work harder and longer and pay more of their wages by % to the tax man have the audacity to earn so much, grrr, bankers getting bonuses whilst I've got to work til 66, kick the dog and go to bed" camp?

Simply because that top 5% and their taxes will go abroad to countries that would welcome them, their skills and tax money with open arms. Nice idea, but wouldn't work.

Very good points. If that happens I hope I'll make a balenced decision between getting a cushy job closer to home where I can watch any kids we have grow up whilst working hard to get them good stuff but setting an example where they know hard work = good stuff. What I wont do is moan about people getting up and getting in 2 hours before and after me earning more as I would have done it and know how hard they're working to get it!