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I don't doubt your source(s) Duncan, however I would like some clarification regarding your assertion that SFC will go under. Surely it will be SLH PLC that will take the brunt of the fall? That surely is one reason for setting the corporate structure out in this manner? And the stadium is also protected as such by the PLC? I do not pretend to be an expert in these matters, but I find it hard to believe that administration for the PLC means SFC Ltd or SMS Ltd will be dissolved as a result. The administrator will be able to see that there is a high level of customer support and something will be worked out whereby Lowe and Wilde will not be involved so 1,000's will come flooding back. :smt115

Nor me. I'm sick of this guy already.:mad:

As someone else said above, the one thing magic ingredient missing at the moment is hope. There cannot be too many people who turn up at SMS thinking we'll win nowadays and so the whole club has sunken into depression, including this forum. Everyone blames everyone else, while the principle architects swan off on holiday or wherever while Rome burns. One of the few exciting prospects with our club right now is Lowe and Wilde losing their shares when we enter administration.

I will not be renewing at March Madness and will see what happens over the summer. I was fleeced of my money last year just prior to Lowe ditching everything Pearson and Crouch had done to keep us up and get the good-vibe back at SMS. It will not happen again - ever.

Yes, that's the problem trying to drum up interest on here - for a start us posters make a small minority of the total number of fans, so to make a difference you have to advertise any scheme outside of here. There are as many readers I suspect as posters, but if most can't be arsed to post, I doubt they'll be fired up enough to register with a formal protest. I also think that there are too many who believe taking action involving ST's will push the club into administration and they fear the change that would inevitably happen as a result. It's a high-risk strategy in a way, but what other voice do we have? There are MANY supporters just walking away anyway, without needing any encouragement whatsoever!

PNE will score within 10 mins of half-time...this always happens at home. We then bust a gut after a dressing down in the changing room and they hit us on the break with a long hopeful ball that the defence don't deal with in a timely manner. It's happened so many times, dare you doubt me?!! So... PNE 2 Saints 0

It should be with the united intention of boycotting the March Madness and Early Bird deals. Yes, this would lose us money saved from these schemes, but it would also send out the biggest message that supporters have lost all faith in the current regime. If this is the strategy count me in.

Not when you've got the likes of Lowe at Saints contributing his 3% by sacking more than one per season!!!

Don't be annoyed - while some fans were clearly opposed at the time, that's not the issue here. The key is what PLC status has STOPPED this club achieving since 2003 and in particular right now in our hour of need that really matters. Surely you can see this?

Well done guys - between Ekelund and Whitey G they got there. There have been 393 managerial changes across all divisions since AF took charge of Man Utd. And therefore, Saints do indeed contribute about 3% of the stat (which is pretty telling in its own right). Just goes to show what managerial continuity does for you when you get a winning combination. Pity Lowe did not realise this when he allowed Strachan to walk away. lol

What has happened 393 times since Alex Ferguson was appointed manager of Man Utd? Clue: Saints have shockingly contributed approximately 3% to this stat. I will confirm the 1st correct answer I read. Have fun.

Mmm, I am torn between... (a) Allowing Strachan to leave the club...or... (b) Forming SLH PLC to govern the life of Southampton Football Club.

Just boycott the early ST renewal. That alone should send a huge shocking message to the banks, the shareholders, the Board of the PLC. But you can still buy a ST or indeed match tickets later on.

Cannot be any worse than McGoaldrought FFS. Give the boy a 5 year contract and tell him he will spearhead Saints promotion push to L1 in 2011.

Guys - take a little look over your shoulder towards the last 10 games. Then tell me how you do not realise that... (a) we're not down already and (b) what possibly gives you any form of hope that we will actually win a game again this season? The writing was on the wall when Rupert appointed the deadly Dutch duo. It was etched into the wall the day Rupert appointed Wotte to take over from JP. We may not have wanted to recognise it at the time, but we were relegated from kick-off in the 1st game of the season. Thanks Rupert.

You're not an investment banker by any chance are you? I think that idea is how a lot of pensions managed to get trashed. :smt115:(:mad:

Its become a depressing reality. And there's no light at the end of the tunnel. We all mocked Derby's plight in their last Prem season and lo and behold we're heading for a similar fate (but one division down). Like others have said, there seems little hope of winning another game this season - the morale in the squad must be rock bottom. Even if Wotte went now, it would be too little too late - we're down and buried. I just hope that Lowe and Wilde lose everything, because I've lost my football club.

KILL THE PLC and watch Lowe, Wilde, Wotte et al fade away. Job done. Oh yeah, count me in.

I think 13K is over-cooking the diehards Robbie - more like 10-11k. But you're right - Lowe is going nowhere unless he is forced out. ST holders can attempt do this by not renewing early.

Exactly - its a results orientated business is football right? Doesn't matter how you dress it up, there are two things that are keeping this club down and will continue to drive it further down...(a) lack of investment due to PLC status and... (b) Lowe's continued poor managerial choices. Results are not likely to change without sorting these things out. DO NOT RENEW ST's = LOSS OF PLC = RETURNING FANS = BETTER FINANCES = BETTER MANAGEMENT/PLAYERS = RENEWED HOPE = UNITED CLUB = SUCCESS etc etc. (apologies for my continued campaign message!)

Far too sensible for some on here it seems WG.:cool:

Now THAT's funny! :smt082

The concept of the council buying SMS so it's owned by the City is a fine one, but not until PLC status has gone...i.e. post administration.

This guy needs to go - simple. I cannot believe there is not a decent Manager out there that can get more out of the squad through better coaching and tactical nouse.

I understand what you are saying, however its not as easy as that - with a fragmented shareholding the present incumbents do not HAVE to sell! This means that even the most ardent buyer will have a problem trying to buy - unless you're Paul Allen and make a hostile bid (but that isn't going to happen to a bottom of the CCC team).