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Not exactly accurate…that last bullet point (“veto power”) jumps out, particularly if you’re of a mind that the EFL kangaroo court was, errr, let’s say established inappropriately and therefore biased.

Try reading the articles from Sir Mostyn carefully. He sets out a clear and unambiguous case that SR/Saints could take to the High Court should they wish. The FA is as likely to be investigating Boro with their connections to the EFL Board (was it the resident Boro Chairman who appointed their two ‘friends’ on the panel?). Not only that, but there is supposed proof that Boro have in fact broken EFL rules themselves and gained unfair competitive advantage systematically and repeatedly in conjunction with data mining and IT alongside Teeside University. It would appear that Saints may well have a very sound reason to play their cards close to their chest in terms of ‘what next’, including potential recompense for the unjust penalty and a release of any further communication to supporters (which lets face it would result in a media storm which would be undesired). It was suggested here just after the announcement of the penalty that the EFL may well have lowered themselves into a very hot cauldron of legal soup and so it transpires. Someone also eluded to Dragan’s lack of willingness to roll over and take a beating - let’s hope he’s a very angry chap and has some well read, excellent legal representation. Some of us on here have said from the beginning we were treated appallingly by the EFL - the bias was almost blatant. I hope our club has the backbone to challenge the whole sorry mess and ensure Eckhert is retained as our Manager. A ban would be another clear case of further extreme bias in my view.

Had huge respect for him when he stepped down a league to join in the Markus/Cortese project. Lost some of that in his final weeks/months as it seemed he wanted to leave when he was needed most. Same as Lallana. However, the drop in quality after he left at CB was marked and it’s very apparent now in hindsight what a fine player he was for us. Would not flinch at him coming back to coach, particularly as a specific defence coach.

RIP Victor - far too young.

I’d accept him as no.2 willingly if we were able to get Peretz back…

I’ll miss the crucial winning goals that came from Charles boots if he goes. Remember those? There’s not too many players around at a decent price point that have his capabilities. I like Jander a lot, but how many goals has he scored - think he’s perhaps a little more expendable. If truth be told keeping both of them would be amazing as they’ve developed a very good partnership with Downes looking certain to be eclipsed.

I don’t know in truth, but if you read the guys statement it’s clear it’s not far removed from the analytical section of the organisation, so perhaps he controlled the interns? 🤔

BREAKING on SkySports Ben Chorley (Head of Scouting) has left the club. He joined last year apparently. First head to roll?

Proceedings that were rushed through by the EFL (unprecedented), therefore further evidence might come have to light in what is less than the 14 days we were supposed to have. It’s called mitigating evidence, which is a valid form of defence even if you’ve admitted the basic charge. Read the Sir Nicholas exposè - he makes it quite clear how the club may have a case.

If only Sir Nicholas had been our council throughout the case. He has a very keen handle on the injustices.

Under the circumstances I don’t think they can be beaten up for not providing a view on what’s happening. Any output from the club that is wrong or plain stupid…well that’s a different matter entirely! 😉

I get it - but this a fans forum so I think we know what to expect?! But, yeah, cyclic arguments and all that…

Fair enough, however I have to say I have much empathy for that argument. The hard evidence suggests we received no competitive advantage from ‘spying’, while beating Boro over 180+ minutes of football, however diving to win a penalty can inflict immediate and lasting damage to the fortunes of the opposing team, particularly in ‘big’ games such as relegation battles etc etc. or how about deliberately inflicting GBH on Scienza’s legs in rash tackles which could physically and mentally damage him for the rest of his career - is that not a worse ‘crime’?

Ownership or CEO? Unless Dragan is somehow personally implicated directly in the matter I’m not sure it’s fair to tar him with the same brush as Parsons who single-handedly handed Gibbo, the EFL and the baying media everything they needed on a plate.