puff the magic dragon

I listened to an interesting discussion involving Jimmy Case on the radio some time ago and he described the club as a triangle. One point of the triangle is the fans. One point of the traingle is the team. One point of the traingle is the board. If the triangle is broken the club is not united and a divided club cannot be sucessful. Either the fans get behind Lowe and the board OR Lowe and the board need to go. It's clear that fans will never be united behind Lowe and Wilde so the triangle will remain broken until they go.

It's not just you, i think there's an air of resignation amongst supporters now. What's the point of bravado, passion and optimism when it's futile? The club is like a runaway train now. The breaks are burnt out and the momentum is unstoppable. The only question is when, not if, we derail spectacularly.

Good. Serves Scouse Mike right for allowing Lowe back.

It might sound stupid but Chris Marden was our new Matt Le Tissier. He was like Steven Gerrard is to Liverpool and Frank Lampard is to chelsea. OK he wasn't in their league skill wise, but he could run the show. Since he left he's never been replaced and as they say it's all history from there.

Yep, it was around this time that things started going wrong. Strachan had inherrited a good team from Hoddle and he'd got lucky with an easy run in the cup. Also with Chris Marsden he had an anchorman in midfield who ran the show. Marsden then left and Saints started resembling Coventry. Strachan could see what was on the cards and got out at just the right time.

We remember how bad Lowe and Wilde were very well.

A Question for everyone. Who out of Lowe, Wilde and Crouch do you trust the least?

Are you for real? Crouch is a self made multi millionnaire. He didn't get where he is by being a mug. He was streetwise enough to appoint Nigel Pearson who should have been allowed to become a Saints Legend. And during his brief spell he started putting right the mess created by Lowe and then Wildes Execs by reducing costs loaning out top earners and proposing the closure of the corners. Above all Leon Crouch is an honourable and generous man. He has the ethics we deserve in a chairman of our once proud club.

Because Saints is a PLC. Why would he want to throw his money into a PLC to the financial benefit or his arch enemies Lowe and Wilde?

If the lack of confidence on global stockmarkets isn't reversed with the mind bogling sums govts. around the world are spending, then there is every likelyhood things could get a lot worse and the recession could turn into a depression. This is why Brown has taken the £500b gamble (which could end up making the country a big profit as it did Norway a few years back). If and when this happens liquidation would be a real possibility.

Looking at the global recession and the fact banks - institutions that should be rock solid - are having to be propped up, it doesn't bode well for Saints or a long list of other clubs that are not financially viable because they've lived beyond their means. I'm positive that Saints will end up in administration, but given the recession - which is looking like it could turn into a depression - the very existance of SFC is imo now in doubt. In hindsight perhaps winning on the final day against Sheff Utd was a disaster because i'm sure we'd have been mopped up had hat happened. I'm not so sure we'd be mopped up now and with every passing day the likelyhood of liquidation becomes more probable.

I live in the real world - not sweetie land!

I call that same sh1t different season!!!

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Give the boy a gold star. I can't speak for all the stay-aways, but speaking for myself I am boycotting to bring the club to it's knees. You see my friend I want the club to go into administration, I want the PLC to go under, I want Lowe and Wilde to lose their investment. Even if Saints end up in league 2 I don't care. So long as the cloud of Lowe is gone i'll be happy. So there you are, you right my little Sunny Delight.

Both him and Cowen also left with a big fat severence pay-off. If Lowe and Cowen cared so much about SFC they a) wouldn't have demanded it, and b) would have given it back on their return. Question for Rupies groupies - why should i put any money into SFC PLC when your beloved Rupert milked the club in it's hour of need?

You soon changed your tune Delldays.

Until Southampton Leisure Holdings PLC dies the club will always be about making money for shareholders/protecting their interests as best as possible. SFC is all about what is best for Rupert Lowe and the rest of them who jumped on the gravy train when the times were good.

Commentators on SaintsTV sound like a Scooby/Sundance double act. "19 minutes to play we could get 3 and win 4-3, what an amazing comeback that would be"

I'm gonna change my prediction. Coventry 0 - 1 Saints

We've got lucky in our last two games, but our luck runs out. Coventry 2-0 Saints

When the team is worth watching those on moderate incomes sacrifice in other areas to be able to afford to watch it. Can you blame fans for considering that it's a waste of money to pay to watch crap?

I do and I will continue to support Saints away from home. As far as i'm concerned the lower the home gates the better. With every pitiful gate it pushes the club closer to administration and sooner rather than later poor old Rupert and Mike will be shafted. Cue the "you're not a real fan" and "administration will be a disaster" replies, but quite frankly nothing could be worse than having a club under the stewardship of Lowe and Wilde. They'll take us into administration eventually anyway so those boycotting are merely excellerating an inevitable process. Rock bottom is where this club is heading and until we've hit it, and Lowe and Wilde are gone for good, we cannot rise again.

The only positive thing Rupert Lowe could do for Saints is to sling his hook.

Looking for a bite? Nah i won't bother, i pity you Sundance. They're even starting threads about you on B-anter now... http://www.b-anter.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4110&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=