scotty

How many decisions did fergusons utd get changed by ref intimidation?

....incidentally, just seen an interesting take on the vote from another website. This makes more sense to me in explaining the leave vote than most of the accusations bandied around about "little englanders" etc. As for the EU, I've said many times what I see is a hijack of a great idea to create a trading and cooperation area between free independent nations. A hijack by a resurgent Germany and a wannabe imperial France backed by globalised corporations and international finance calling the shots in Europe. Its frankly another attempt to build a European empire with German economic backing (they are the only nation really doing well out of the project, ask the Italians, the Greeks, the Spanish etc.) The Empire dreamers aren't in Britain anymore (done that, been there, got bitten too many times) they are the EU with their plans for European armies, United States of Europe, internal markets advantageous to those who give up sovereignty and join their empire and punishing to those who refuse. A European land based empire by any other name with the imperial capital in Brussels where the empires laws are made and its ruling classes can run things with little or dissent from the serfs they are creating. Reducing the commodity of labour and skill to its lowest worth by creating a vast pool of cheap mobile workers willing to travel and leave their homes and compete with each other for work in a race to the bottom whilst the few get richer and richer. Taking back control is more than taking back control of a border. We can choose what we get after Brexit if we stop arguing with each other about whether or not we should give up and be part of the European empire or remain a small free and independent nation and just get on with working to create a Britain we'd actually all like to be part of.

The TSN pundit said decoure realised he wouldn't get the header, and deliberately handled it in. So you can forgive McCarthy for expecting it to fly past him on his left.

Not terribly sporting of me, but I wasn't unhappy to see okaka get that thump from Mccarthy.

Watford are putting in a hell of a shift, they seem to have more players than us all over the pitch.

That was coming.

F*cking hell, I was just about to say we'd drop an equaliser on half time :D

JWP! Get in

And all that pressure came from one stupid, careless, misplaced pass.

None that have actually been in power, but some that have been surprisingly close to it. The libdems were in coalition, they'd definitely have us in before you could blink if they had enough pull, and salmond was quite near the point where he'd have been able to take an independent scotland out of sterling and into the euro (in fact, it was his stated aim as one of his first priorities.) It's not just the currency issue, important though that is, it's what else would inevitably follow it that also makes that a red line for me.

What do you mean, "you lot"? I didn't give much of a toss which way the vote went, that's why I didn't bother. I had a very slight preference to stay in, but only if the margin was so narrow that some future government couldn't use it to drag us into the euro.

:lol: Come off it, ffs.

Half of this thread has seen remainers sneeringly referring to leavers as "jihadists".

He wasn't just saying that, he meant any contract also needs a release clause in the event of relegation to persuade any half-decent player to sign for us.

Chaplows screamer against mu? That was pretty damn loud.

My dad always used to say "take it with a pinch of salt." Lovely man. Made horrible tea.

Perhaps he meant the St Mary's district, rather than the stadium. Maybe Ron made friends during his time here.

I have a theory that whoever coined the phrase "haunted" to describe someones expression was looking at Bilic when they first said it.

That'll do.

That's open to interpretation. He was certainly chasing after the ball, but I don't think he had possession of it (ie, control of it.) And Fer by definition cannot possibly have been challenging for the ball, it being yards ahead of the player he fouled, so Whiteys view is quite valid; it was a simple kick at a player. Don't get me wrong, I was as surprised by the red as anyone else, but these sort of fouls need to be penalised properly imho. I thought at the time the ref had probably got sick of seeing them in a niggly game, maybe it was just one too many for him to let go.

Anyone else see the wolves/swansea highlights and cheer when Fer got sent off? I have nothing against him or swansea, but I'm heartily sick of these cynical bastards taking out attacks early in midfield and getting away with nothing more than a yellow. I know the ref didn't apply the letter of the law but for me it's high time players stopped assuming they can just get away with these fouls, I hope more refs start twitching towards a red card for the really cynical fouls like that one. Rant over.

Excellent.

Zoo jokes, eh? :D John Terry took his family on an outing to the zoo. He pointed through the glass and said "look at the funny monkey, kids! Ooh ooh!! Aah aah!!" Then he pulled out his wallet and said "sorry mate, two adults and two children please."

I don't want it to happen. But we all know that it's going to.