Raging Bull

Fair point, my apologise. It's just when you call someone insane, you don't really expect them to listen with an open mind.

Ok, whatever.

Why?

Well this is true, but best guesses are that 1 day they won't be all that.

1. OK, it's up to you (as I've always said) whether or not you believe those names are traslations for the names they're known by today, whatever. Prophecy is to give warning of future events, not ultimate details. Because lets face it, with the way you are, even if it did mention VP then you'd be calling BS because it didn't name the anti aircraft weapons used or what side the soldiers dress. 2. Why do you want to know this?

After years of being an utter helmet (violence, all or nothing living etc, hence the name) a few things happened in my personal life that changed my view on things a few years ago. When I looked into the word of God (especially prophecy) and married it up to world events it was clear that it's real and should be taken seriously. I'm also 1 of those guys that soaks in as much info as possible when their interested, but bugger all when not interested. Hence this sticks. **puts on tin hat ready for the insults from the atheists**

Actually, it does mention Russia & Turkey. But I didn't think for a second you'd get it... Anyway, here's a break down for you along with a quick intro, enjoy Tubal and Meshech are mentioned together in Ezekiel 38:2. They were the 5th and 6th sons of Japheth, the son of Noah (Genesis 10:2). Some believe these people intermarried and became known as Magog, the dominant tribe. There are two main theories for their location: (1) RUSSIA and (2) TURKEY. Whichever it is does not change the overall picture as both are identified by the other names in Ezekiel. (1) Regarding Meshech and Tubal, some assign a Russian identification, connecting these 2 nations with the modern Russian cities of Moscow and Tobolsk. Meshech - Moscow, and Tubal - Tobolsk. The first view became well known through the Scofield Study Bible: “That the primary reference is to the Northern powers headed by Russia, all agree. The reference to Meshech and Tubal (Moscow and Tobolsk) is a clear mark of identification.” Thus the name Moscow derives from the tribal name Meshech, and Tobolsk, the name of the principal state, from Tubal. This view is partly based on the similarity of sound in these names and their close proximity to Rosh (Russia). If this is so, the names Meshech and Tubal, point directly to Russia, being identified with Moscow, the capital of modern Russia, and Tobolsk in Asiatic Russia. Modern Tobolsk was founded in 1587 in western Siberia, and from there the Cossacks rode eastward to open up all of Siberia to Russian domination. Meshech and Tubal would then be names standing for Russia in Europe and Asia.

That’s because only 2% of churches even discuss prophecy or end times because it freaks people out and they’re worried about numbers. If the Christians you know would disagree with things like prophecy then I’d suggest they’re ignoring 28% of the bible.

The Russians also have the bible but that’s not stopping them from fulfilling the prophecy is it...

Egg, people will see this as nuts, but it isn’t. It’s simply mans self righteousness pride that puts himself on top of every pile. It’s funny though, so many people on their death beds give their hearts to God. You’ve gotta ask yourself why that is. It’s because at the end of it all when all else is failing, we still believe in God. When I get a chance I’ll post some really good videos on current prophecies. I’m sure you’ll enjoy watching it

MLG there is absolutely no point in debating with you, but just so you’re absolutely clear 1. I understand the bible and the theology behind it all very well 2. You couldn’t care less, and that’s fine Anyway, I’m about to miss a deadline if I’m not careful

So you’re saying that’s not right? Seriously? That Israel wasn’t a nation before 1948 but was after 1948? It was formed on the 14th may 1948. Are you also saying Israel isn’t now the 8th richest country in the world? But if you don’t understand that then you’d better step out of the room because simple facts are too much for you

It’s up to you what you think of me, I’m not fussed. But 28% of the bible is dedicated to prophecy, so predicting things...

And just so you atheists can freak out before bed time, here’s the word in more detail https://www.factsaboutisrael.uk/israel-fig-tree/?cn-reloaded=1 Now suck it up and repent

Ezekiel 20-41:42 41. With a pleasing savor I shall accept you when I take you out of the nations, and I shall gather you from the lands in which you were scattered, and I shall be hallowed through you before the eyes of the nations. 42. And you will know that I am the Lord when I bring you to the land of Israel, to the land that I lifted My hand to give to your forefathers. And as if by magic, Israel became a nation again in 1948 And yes, I’m aware it’s from last century before you get all pedantic on me. But it’s a highly significant 1. As for this century, it was predicted that Israel will flourish. They’re now the 8th richest country in the world and 5th largest seller of military technology. The fig tree is blooming, just as Jesus predicted. This is the parable of the fig tree found in Matthew

Not trying to be Nostradamus, you don’t believe it and that’s fine.

Yes, because I believe it. You don’t and that’s fine. As you were

Tell me something, why did Russia stand shoulder to shoulder with the dictator in Syria? Because they want to protect their pipelines throughout the land, through to Iran (oh look, Iran again) And let’s be honest here badger, if you dominated the natural gas market, would you not be doing everything you can to protect it? Especially if you’re country/leader that thinks nothing of invading another country, knowing no one else will come to that country’s aid. In this case they dare not do what they did to the Ukraine because Israel have insane amounts of military capacity (another bible prophecy), so they need to be careful. Especially as Israel is at the heart of practicality everything in the Middle East. But they will attack through the north, eventually.

Anyway, why are you watching duck porn?

What’s the point in replying to you when you weren’t even gracious enough to admit to the pony you were spouting off about over Jesus condoning/encouraging murder is simply the implementation of the law at the time?

BTW if anyone wants the low down on bible prophecy just shout. Don’t be shy, I love you all

Don’t you lock this thread!!!

Matthew, I’ll give you a little evidence about the future. Ezekiel 38 & 39 is about Russia, Turkey & Iran attacking Israel from the north for profit. Russia’s economy ain’t doing too great if you hadn’t noticed and Israel have recently discovered and enormous natural gas reserve. Russia is petrified that Israel will become the dominant seller to Europe (they’ve already said they will), so much so that they’re now camped? Yep, you’ve guessed it, on the north border. Isaiah 17 Predicts Damascus will become a ruinous heap that will over night become uninhabitable. Now whilst it’s not uninhabitable just yet, it’s dangerously close to begin wiped off the face of the earth with Israel themselves training the weapons on the city due to Iran and Russia storing arsenals of all sorts of rockets there. Go on tell me that Damascus isn’t an fing message on the verge of annihilation... These are just 2 of many prophecies about the future that are happening right now, but you don’t believe them and I’m guessing it’s just coincidence. As you were

Why are you watching duck porn?

Go on?