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Well we continue with your spectacular dumbness there not realising a difference between 'might' and 'no barrier'. Considering we grant asylum to many people WHO DO cross through France and other 'safe countries' you might have guessed your response wasn't the 'gotcha' you thought it was.

This point is so spectacularly dumb. Firstly there is no barrier to applying for asylum here having passed through other 'safe' countries. Secondly our take in of refugees and asylum seekers is much lower than the most of Europe anyway. Thirdly, if you had to leave your home behind, all your possessions fleeing say a war or persecution, would you chose A. A country you have no relatives in and don't speak the language of or B. the country that you do speak the language of and/or have relatives in. ? Not really a hard concept is it why some people might want to go from France to the UK when they are refugees. Fourthly you provided a list, I see there were large proportions of people from Syria and Afghanistan, countries we had a pretty big role in royally fucking up, you'd think we'd have some national conscious there to help out those people, but again all humanity is driven out of this debate by the right wing, with words like 'invasion' and 'threat' and 'disaster; being used, as opposed to desperate people being offered help. Afghanistan also being a country that has been full of English speaking troops and contractors for about 10 years or more (because again we invaded it and then abandoned it to the Taliban), again showing why a lot of those refugees might for example want to head towards a country where they speak some of the language and have interacted with British people before. Just to note in 2021 the UK had just short 49k asylum applications. France had just short of 121k and Germany had the most in the EU at 190k. Spain and Italy also had more applications than us. All those countries take in and have more refugees/asylum seekers than the UK does. (not to mention as well the worlds richest countries, the ones best equipped to deal with displaced people are actually shocking in the numbers they deal with compared to many much poorer countries, Turkey has taken in something absurd like 5 million refugees) But somehow its a massive problem here? Except it isn't, its just a right wing scaremongering tactic used to drive up racist rhetoric and distract from the real issues impacting the country.

Because its relevant, we were pushed to war and British people lost their lives because we threw our lot in with the US and their overly aggressive neoconservatism, all on a lie they peddled and was peddled by Blair. Who was the last Labour PM (pretty much) yet you are saying that one of the reason we couldn't possibly elect Corbyn is because he's a pacifists and against war which thus disqualifies him from potentially being a good PM? Yet the last Labour PM we had for any length of time literally took us into a war on a lie, illegally invaded a sovereign state (which is what Putin did) and is essentially a war criminal. Seems a pretty relevant point to me, you use it a criticism of Corbyn, I'd personally give him credit for it considering the alternative we have already seen. Then there is literally the whole double standard of it. Why do we give a shit about Ukraine, but its fine for Saudi Arabia to bomb the crap out of Yemen? WITH British and US weapons? We condemn Putin for invading Ukraine, but constantly prop up Israel who brutally oppress the Palestinians, and anyone who criticises that and Israel more often than not gets condemned as anti-Semitic, even though Israel is a nation state not the whole Jewish race of people. We pussy foot around China because let's not piss off China even though they have a horrific human rights record, are persecuting uyghur muslims and are threatening the democratic state of Taiwain, which we all pretend is not a country even though it is. Oh and we completely threw the people of Hong Kong under the bus too, literally people who were pretty much Britain. Thats all fine though, but lets throw millions of pounds at Ukraine and questioning that and us putting more money into NATO is a bad thing and Corbyn is this giant bogeyman because of it apparently. Cos he says stuff like this - How unreasonable.....

As opposed to the rich people who just love people like you then? Your mortgage payments have gone up and utlities have gone up because of the fucking Tories, yet here you are attacking Labour about it, how actually dumb is that? They literally had a plan to tackle the energy bills, it was a windfall tax on the energy companies, they even gave it to the Tories. The Tories decided nah we won't do that, let them make record profit and we'll borrow from the tax payers to pay it in two years time. Their stupid libertarian far right tax cuts for the rich was what spooked the markets, crashed the pound and drove interest rates up. Again Labour have decent plans for growing the economy which doesn't involve dumb trickle down economics BUT THEY ARENT IN POWER SO WTF DO EXPECT THEM TO BE DOING. How many people cross the channel in boats is irrelevant, it has no real impact on the country, the actual numbers are tiny compared to the population of the country and illegal immigrants can't use public services. The whole fuss about these boats is literally there to distract you from the other shit they are fucking up, the Tories have always used immigration like this, the whole Brexit immigration thing was exactly the same to distract people from the real reason they wanted Brexit. Which was to get us out of the EU so there were no rules and regulations that protected people, the environment, food, animals so they could exploit all that for more profit, plus the looming EU tax avoidance rules that were coming in because the rich people that Labour apparently 'hate' according to you, didn't want to pay taxes so got their Tory chums to drive us out of the EU so they could avoid the rules and pay their fair share. If we had legal routes of immigration open for refugees and asylum seekers, i.e. normal ports of entry they wouldn't have to use the boats, that is the elephant in the room no one wants to admit, even the EU as whole skips on that one. Why would some refugee pay thousands to a criminal gang to cross the channel on a deathtrap if they could just come in via a ferry, train or plane? They wouldn't, but for some bonkers reason you can't claim asylum at normal ports of entry. Also put yourself in their shoes, imagine how desperate these people must be to do this, risk their lives, their kids lives for this, these are people, just normal people, a lot of them fleeing awful things, yet the whole narrative around this seeks to dehumanise them. Also imagine not wanting a section of society to be hated on and marginalised, how awful for people to not want that........................... I mean FFS complaining about boats of a few thousand mostly desperate people like that has any impact on your life whatsoever. It isn't the poor souls in those boats that have fucked up the NHS or drove your mortgage payments up or ruined pretty much every public service going its the Tories you were likely have been voting in constantly for the last 12 years. If you actually paid attention to those 'nasty left wing knobs' as you so eloquently put it, you might have notice that people like that have been pointing this out for the last 12 fucking years but people like you seem to prefer to listen Daily Mail and the like, who are owned by billionaires so of course they really care about you and your mortgage........oh wait no they don't, they give a flying monkeys about ordinary people they just want them and their mates to get richer so that is why they push the Tories.

He has in for Starmer because he's weak and far too centrist. I mean what Starmer did with the unions and the strikes was bad, still having an official line of 'making Brexit work' is bad, Starmer is not good on a lot of stuff and I don't think he is very electable either. But they seem to be getting a little better more recently and I hope he is playing his cards close to his chest. You can be on the left and electable with proper progressive policies as they are popular. 2017 showed that as Labour has proper progressive policies that would have changed this countries direction and they resonated well, forcing May to form a government with the DUP because she had no real majority and that is with Corbyn causing issues (who is nowhere near as bad as you make out and his reputation comes far more from our idiotic right wing press than anything he did, what he was particularly worse was be crap on the whole anti-semitism thing that lost him votes, no one gives a shit about pacifism and being anti-nuclear, I mean god forbid we don't invade a country again on a lie to get their oil eh? pacifism seems a much better alternative imo.)

They have always been a credible option, its just right wing dominated media scare mongering and focusing on dumb culture wars that is the issue, leading the turkeys to vote for Christmas. Also whats wrong with Owen Jones? Guy talks constant sense.

Yeh its good news for the global climate as Bolsanaro was screwing the Amazon hard and exploiting it, he's a big climate denier. Hopefully this will signal some policy reversals and see the rainforest recover a little as its massively important for global CO2 levels. I think really its a bit of a Biden vs Trump situation, the two options are still bad, but one is completely horrific and dangerous, whereas the other is just more typical bad politician. (Though credit to Biden he seems to have become a lot better recently and done a lot of unexpected good) As far as I understand it Lula was basically corrupt and just got away with it, though he seems to claim it was a stitch up.

As far as I know there is basically an older Tory MP who is a complete far right loon who is essentially a 'mentor' for the younger far right lunatic MPs like Braverman so they send stuff to this guy to get his approval basically, I think it was then his wife she trying was copy in, presumably so he got more alerts to see it? I mean it basically shows the shady stuff going on behind the scenes where the far right of the Tory party is basically controlling the Government, the ERG, Steve Baker, etc. a tiny minority unrepresentative of the country is basically holding the rest of the Tory party hostage and thus pulling the strings of the government. The whole sordid affair needs investigating and exposing as it's clearly corrupt. The Home Secretary should not be showing and checking policy with an irrelevant backbench MP in the first place, let alone sending the e-mail to the wrong person.

Because they get called the 'loony left'. Most of our papers are right wing anyway because they are owned by rich individuals so will of course push an agenda that favours them. The TV media most of them fall over themselves to be 'neutral' that they allow complete nonsense to be spouted by government ministers and right wing commentators and barely ever challenge it. The BBC has been infiltrated by right wing former government people, and if it does a tiny criticism it gets attacked by Tories as being anti-government. Look at the dumb reactions to Gary Lineker from the right, he tweeted the other day that Tory MPs shouldn't have voted to allow the Water Companies to pump raw sewage into our rivers. Seems a fairly no-brainer opinion that and hardly controversial, didn't stop a Tory MP questioning the head of the BBC about it and basically saying Gary Lineker shouldn't be allowed to have any opinion on the government because he is a BBC employee. The Tories are constantly threatening the licence fee, with the purpose very clear, they want to keep the BBC in line and passive. You also saw the absurd reaction to Joe Lycett being sarcastic about Lizz Truss (and of course being correct), again the Tories don't want the BBC or anyone on the BBC to be allowed to have an opinion that criticises them. Channel 4 is also the same, public owned, keeps getting threatened to be sold. Again to keep it in line. I mean Guru-Murphy called Steve Baker a c*nt when he thought he was off air, Steve Baker is a c*nt, he's one of worst Tory politicians around and has ruined the party and the country through the ERG. But you had Tory MPs calling for him to be sacked because he expressed an opinion. The only real places I have seen real government pushback is GMB seems to do it a lot and James O'Brien on LBC. But even on LBC most of the presenters like Iain Dale and Nick Ferrari have been government apologists for years. Then the papers you get the Guardian and the Mirror, maybe the Independent but then that is owned by Lebedev. The Guardian basically gets dismissed anyway as a 'loony left'. So most of the mainstream media is either right wing or falls over itself to be 'neutral' that it might as well be right wing, and the public owned stuff constantly gets threatened with extinction to tow the tory line. That is why the Tories hate twitter so much, because people like Lineker have a following and can express an opinion that they have no control over. We have this weird situation where most of our media is neutral or to the right, yet we have multiple left or centre-left political parties, add that together with rigged FPP election system and we have a population bombarded with right leaning media who then have one right wing party to vote for, whilst the left vote gets slit between multiple parties and has little media support or coverage. Hence why we end up with so many Tory governments despite them never doing stuff that helps the masses or having popular policies.

Of course there are no benefits, which is why the Government's paper on Brexit benefits the headline item was crown stamps on pint glasses (which we could have had anyway). The other one they harped on about was pint size Champagne bottles, which is hilarious on so many levels, not only are Champagne makers not going to make special size bottles for one market, but as if Champagne bottle size is an important issue for the masses. I think we will re-join fully, but SM joining will happen first. Personally I think it's inevitable, the disaster it has been reveals itself more and more, the Brexiteers have had COVID and Ukraine to keep excusing the mess but those excuses are becoming old and many who voted leave are waking up. No Brexit benefits have been found, even Brexit supporting newspapers are reporting Brexit damage now. It has literally given us nothing. --------------------------------- I also resent the suggestion that because a bunch of morons have ruined the country with their ignorant vote and ignorant plans that I should apparently move to a different country if I don't like it, such utter nonsense. Though when we do start integrating back into the EU, I fully invite those remaining hard core Brexiteers to leave the country, we'd all be a lot better of.

We will re-join eventually because its makes sense and will improve the economy, anyone not a completely biased Brexiteer knows that. But quite simply name a tangible Brexit dividend and clear benefit for the country, yet to see anyone actually name one.

One of the authors of that article, also wrote this - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/10/02/markets-wrong-trussonomics-just-like-brexit/ On the 2nd of October, that aged well and shows how much these people know. 'Independent Economists', i.e ones that any self respecting organisation won't actually touch because of their extreme views.

This FT video sums it all up pretty nicely, also being the FT it can't be passed of as some 'lefty remainer' media source, its the FT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO2lWmgEK1Y

Personally I think, though I might be wrong on this, that Starmer and the Labour party are keeping most of their more radical cards to their chest. Their strategy seems pretty simple between now and the eventual GE, just let the Tories self destruct as they seem to be doing regularly, let the economic issues play out, cuts to services, inflation, recession etc. etc. do the talking basically and just keep tying them to the Tories and the mess they created. Put out the odd well supported, non-controversial policy out there like they have done, so windfall tax on energy companies, corporation tax increase, green targets, public energy company etc. stuff that is hard to argue against and is going to be well liked. Every so often remind everyone about the parties and corruption. They know they don't need to do much more than that to gain a big majority in the next GE so there is no need for them to more open on potentially controversial issues. Because as soon as they do that, the right wing biased media will attack them and start scare stories. So why say anything about Brexit or re-joining, all you are going to do is get the Daily Mail frothing at the mouth about people having their democracy stolen or whatever, its completely pointless. A lot of the hardcore Brexit voters are basically a fanatical tribe, they are like Trump supporters, it doesn't matter what you tell them or show them or how bad the impact of Brexit is, they will still shout about sovereignty and pint glasses and other nonsensical crap. Sadly some of these people are likely Labour voters or in important areas for Labour, its how Johnson got them in 2019, Labour were too wish washy about Brexit and Johnson just shouted 'Get Brexit Done' at them over and over, and for sheep people like this that works. There is no need to scare people like that by Labour talking about re-joining or better deals or whatever. So that is why I think Labour are being very non-committal, barely saying anything on stuff like Brexit, PR, etc. because there is no point risking that debate deflecting from the Tory party shooting themselves in the foot. Labour, baring a miracle or some sort of giant fuck up are going to win the next GE, and probably have a huge majority that will enable them to be in power for probably 10 years at least. By that time we could be another 18 months, 2 years down the line with the Brexit consequences very easy to point out and the solution is very easy to point out. And with a large majority Labour will be able to just slowly re-join us on sly, without fanfare. You want to fix a lot of the issues with Brexit then that is a pretty obvious one right there, I think basically we'll have a Norway like deal within a year of a new Labour government and we will be back within the single market, the economic boost we will get from doing that will win them the following election. The 2019 election, despite giving Johnson a large parliamentary majority, was actually very close and it went to the Tories because of Brexit, they made it about Brexit and that got them across the line. Remember 2017 Labour actually did very well, they had progressive policies that went down well and that was despite them being led by the divisive Corbyn, it still forced May to need the awful DUP to form a government. Had they had someone more palatable to the electorate in 2017 Labour would have won that election I reckon, and probably been forming a government in a coalition. But they then went wish washy on Brexit (you can't blame them because they knew it was a bad idea and really the best course was to reverse it, but they couldn't pitch that as they'd upset half the country, so ended up being unclear) and Johnson went full on Brexit and made the election about Brexit, which then he won. So the next election needs to not be about Brexit, which is why Labour barely say anything on it, and because the Tories now don't have that advantage because they 'got Brexit done'. They didn't but you can't say 'get Brexit done, again', it doesn't work, it was a bit like Trump still using 'Make America Great again' when he'd been President for 4 years, the message rings hollow. Take it out of the public mindset, elect a government with adults in the room and let them get on governing sensibly as we then elect them to do, which means they can fix Brexit by the way it should have been fixed all along, basically undoing it.

A day? More like about 90 mins..... Don't forget Gavin Williamson, who is somehow a 'Sir' twice sacked minister who was completely incompetent as Education Secretary and oversaw the exams fiasco. A cabinet full of awful people because he had to do dumb deals to make sure the vote never got to the loony members who would have chosen anyone but him. He is also going to bowdown to the ERG, with Steve Baker basically saying he'd bring down the government if they didn't force through the NI protocol change, even though its breaking international law and NI is literally the best performing part of the UK economically because of it.

So allegedly Mbappe's salary per year is around £182 million, which is about the same as the combined wage bills of the 11-20th wage budgets of Ligue 1. If anything shows how broken the game is that is probably it.

Emery is a great appointment, look at how much he won at Sevilla and Villareal. His spell at Arsenal wasn't bad, you only have to look how long it took Arteta to get them decent to see that Emery did a decent job, plus most of the board above Emery have left or been sacked and there are better people running the club now. He's won the Europa league 4 times, been to another final with Arsenal, got Villareal to the Champs league semi-final (and gave Liverpool a scare) and 5 trophies with PSG (though not that hard). That is more trophies than probably all but 3 managers in the PL.

I remember Gallardo as a player, he was pretty good to my recollection, regular for the Argentina national team in mid to late 90s. Don't know much about him as a manager but he seems have been manager at River Plate for 8 years and is regarded as their greatest ever coach. Whether there is anything there I don't know but knowing River he'll have brought through a lot of youngsters and will be used to seeing his best players sold often.

Who knows maybe a new manager will get more out of him. We are hardly a creative team and never seem great on the transition so there often don't seem many chances for him to use his pace in behind or have balls driven across the box so he is often feeding off scraps. Combine that with low confidence and you can probably see why he's not scoring much at all. We have been crying out for years for a player with true 'no.10' abilities to pick out passes in around the box, through balls, quality crosses etc. The exact kind of player you'd feel Armstrong would benefit from. At the moment we seem to cross a lot aerially as a main route to goal which doesn't help him at all. Still think there are the raw ingredients there for an effective player, just needs unlocking.

I think he's similar to the manager in that when you are ready to completely write him off he seems to pull a performance out of the bag.

I would never wish us to lose to get rid of a manager and clearly Ralph is not incompetent in setting up the team and can get the team at least playing ok. BUT surely if players don't really trust him and relationships have broken down then the results shouldn't really matter, its an untenable position. You can't build a young, improving squad in one of the toughest leagues in the world if the players and the manager don't really get on and there is no real relationship there. Having a couple of players maybe dislike eachother can be overcome, having the players and the manager at odds, with the manager not really speaking to players makes no sense at for developing a good team long term.

I still think Poch might end up back at Spurs, I feel like Conte just isn't a good fit both ways, he'll likely get the Juve job or something. I am still rather baffled that even if results improve, if Ralph has lost the trust of many players and has no relationship with them, then that is an untenable position surely? There is no real coming back from that, so I don't get the boards hesitation. Plus we now have what 3 other PL clubs looking for managers, 2 of whom have bigger budgets than us, so more and more competition is there. If these reports are true I just don't understand the trust he got and how he wasn't changed before the season started.

I think at least one if not two have confirmed they will not just quit the Tory party they'll go to Labour. Multiple leading Tories have said he shouldn't come back. He'll massively divide the party, wasn't it something like 60 ministers and staff resigned in protest from his government because of his awful behaviour. There are also other issues piling up for the Tories that might trigger elections, there are 8 I think MPs Boris has elevated to the Lords and technically you can't be an MP and in the House of Lords so those 8 should go to a by-election (with the Tories likely losing all 8). Hilariously Truss could actually do the same and screw the party over, she could send some of her loyal followers to the House of Lords as well, triggering more by-elections. Plus then if the new Leader is divisive, then you could trigger a host of resignations and possibly defections. The majority they sit with could be quickly eroded and any new leader will not be able to get anything done if they have rebels voting against the government. The whole farce of the forced vote on fracking is likely to have led to more Tory MPs being pissed off and more likely to ignore the whip. Plus a lot of them are standing down next election so again might not give a shit if they lose the whip and will just sit there as independents until the next election. There are just too many fighting factions in the tory party, and the various factions of MPs don't align with the members so the chance of them all agreeing on someone is next to none. There is also no one really that is very electable or who goes down with the public. We sadly might have to wait out many more months if not a year or so of this shambles of a Conservative party but I think we are seeing the death of it right now, I don't think the Conservative party in the format we have known for the last 50+ years is ever coming back from this. If Labour do get in and we finally get electoral reform with PR, we might actual see several right wing parties appear.

Braverman should have resigned on that awful 'tofu eating' speech she did in Parliament trying to push through that absurd anti-protest bill which is just authoritarianism plain and simple, add in she literally said she 'dreamt' of sending migrants to Rwanda then you have one awful awful human being that should never hold public office ever again. I mean how they managed to find a worse Home Secretary than Patel just shows how deep the Tory swamp goes. They were at odds because the plans of the extreme free market libertarians that back Truss and have infiltrated the government require a labour force we don't have and the only way to do that is to ease immigration rules which is at odds with the race baiting anti-immigration Brexiteers in the tory party. I personally think they might hold onto to Truss for a little while to pull the same trick they have been doing for years. Which is be consistently awful and fail the country, and then get in a 'new' government to try to pretend its a fresh start. We have the absurdity of Hunt being hailed as some sort of saviour, this is a guy who as Health Secretary basically made the NHS as bad as it is today and was a big supporter of austerity, he also flipped from Remain to being a Brexiteer, in short he is awful and is going to be just as bad. He's going to inflict more austerity on the country that we now know literally killed hundreds of thousands of people.

Brexit was always going to be a undeliverable as a success (unless you went for a very light Brexit which the hard Brexiteers never wanted) so no one competent was ever going to be associated with it. The only people that would try to deliver something so stupid, is stupid fantasists, which is basically who we have had govern for the last 3 years. Anyone with any actual brain tissue, common sense and competence has been forced out of the Tory party. What we have been left with is loony extreme libertarian morons and the last month or so has shown how absurdly stupid they are. The mini-budget was the Brexiteer's holy grail, tax cuts for the rich, deregulation, bankers bonuses, public spending cuts, and it was an unmitigated disaster, yet most of these idiots were heralding it as the greatest thing ever when it came out. All of those awful Brexit people like Farage, were cooing over Truss and Kwarteng. Plus she is still planning to follow it up with her 'bonfire of red tape' where the aim to strip away workers rights, protestors rights (already doing that), environmental protections, food standards, measures to keep the market in check (because yeh lets risk another 2008 financial crash). These people are the most dangerous thing to happen to the British people in generations, the Tufton street gang with their unnamed donors and dangerous extreme free market ideas are now in every section of the government and they are there because of Brexit.