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Don't you think it's time for you to wind it in a bit mush? At least on this thread. Show a bit of respect. You know what that is, don't you?

The EU is heading inexorably towards a federal state. That is what most people rejected. Brexit is just a continuation of the process that began with our refusal to join the eurozone and Shengen. Either that or most of us just hate johnny forriners.

Is that an address or a lifestyle?

No I don't think it's any of those.

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Responsibility for capital projects was transferred from the "council" to the tenants association in 2002. What do North Ken "locals" look like? That's a very slippery slope.

So, all we need are better defenders, better midfielders and better strikers. And a better goalkeeper. Now that's what I call a plan.

Yes

I'm not sure that's entirely accurate. KCTMO took over responsibility for entire blocks from RBKC. That included some flats that had been bought by tenants on long leases under the Right to Buy scheme, some of those leases having subsequently been sold on by the original buyers. So KCTMO rents out the social housing on behalf of RBKC and also fulfils the landlord obligations where leasehold have been sold. KCTMO is also responsible for capital works projects. So, broad brush I would say that KCTMO is the responsible party for what happened (although it might be able to lay off some liability to designers supervisors inspectors architects or builders depending on the type of contracts used) RBKC is responsible to sort out the mess and look after the affected, and Theresa May is liable along with every government for the past 40 years for the complete b*ggers muddle that UK housing policy has become.

You have to question the wisdom of the likes of the BBC publishing articles claiming that the block could have been fitted with sprinklers for £138,000 without any attempt at proper verification. Consultancy fees alone would be far in excess of that before you bought a single piece of pipe. How much does a certified fire pump cost these days? And the standby pump in case the first one is out of service for maintenance? And the dedicated power supply to the pumps? And the standby power supply in case of a power failure during a fire? Someone already mentioned water storage. And where do you fit sprinkler pipework in flats that don't have purpose built ceiling voids or sufficient headroom to install them? Do they still have to be painted red? Attractive in your lounge. I'm not sure that retrofit sprinklers is practical in these old tower blocks. Proper compartmentation and protected means of escape is a reasonable solution, but it didn't work in this case. The enquiry should focus on why not. The fire that started in a flat should have been contained in that flat, and the corridors and staircase(s) should have been fire and smoke free. Something went wrong and we have to make sure it doesn't happen again. I think alterations will be needed to other blocks after this.

To take a leaf out of the aviation safety culture safety textbook, there is a case for no prosecutions if it leads to openness transparency and safer homes. If we start out on a witchhunt, a lot of important information will be withheld. "You have the right to remain silent, but anything you do say may be ... etc etc...."

Somebody posted that it would be against PL rules, which is rubbish. I don't like the idea, but that is not what was being discussed.

There is no debt in the football club in the transaction you described. The debt belongs to the borrower. The football club is the security. He might want to take profits out of the club to make debt repayments but that's not the same thing. He could take the same profits out of the club even if he bought it with his own money.

What is this other referendum that you and others are so keen on? Do you wish the UK Government had not given notice under art. 50 of the Lisbon Treaty? Yes or no?

Why on earth not? Those are perfectly normal commercial terms, that you will be very familiar with if you've got a mortgage.

He probably doesnt realise that youve actually been on holiday to Turkey, otherwise he wouldn't dare question your credentials.

The Tories problem was the content of the message, not the means of delivery.

I thought you'd been Trumped.

Couple of decent free kicks later, and he could be back to No1 by tomorrow morning.

This is SainteWeb. How good he was depends on whether he leaves or stays.

What, all of them?

Any such proposal would end up in the UK Supreme Court, and the CJEU. What the outcome would be from there is anybody's guess, but it is far from clear cut.

I hope in the midst of all this euphoria, they remember that Diane is still chained up in the basement.

The SSN I'm watching says that its Lander that are claiming it's a done deal, and Sky sources are claiming that SFC are saying it's a long way from being a done deal. And my reading of the new rules is that the PL could exclude for crimes committed overseas, not would or must, so it is discretionary. Basildon Bond will breathe a huge sigh of relief.

Three things I've learned... Whatever the media says, Brexit is not the most important thing in most people's lives The Scots really don't want independence People like free stuff