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  1. In a "Fuglers" sort of way?
  2. My own speculation. Hence the question mark.
  3. I had to comment on the piece in the Grauniad yesterday. It's blatantly fabricated nonsense. Balram Chainrai set to stay at Portsmouth as sale options narrow • Balram Chainrai the only candidate 'who ticks all the boxes' • Administrator hopes to finalise deal within four to six weeks Balram Chainrai, Portsmouth's fourth owner of a turbulent season, could remain in charge of the club for the long term, it has emerged, after the club's administrator said he was the only potential owner who "ticks all the boxes". Andrew Andronikou, who yesterday secured agreement from the Premier League to trade outside the transfer window and is looking to raise £20m to £30m from player sales, is working on a plan that would see Chainrai remain in control of a restructured club. "He definitely has the wherewithal and I do believe he has the club's interests at heart [1]," Andronikou said. "He has given us full support throughout the whole process. At the moment he is the only one who ticks all the boxes. [2]" The administrator said there were no obvious credible buyers [3] despite interest from a consortium fronted by the property tycoon Rob Lloyd. Many fans who hoped for a fresh start will be concerned over the continued involvement of a man closely linked to the club's messy past and the cast of characters involved in it. Chainrai, who advanced a £15m facility [4] to see the club through administration, has been involved since last October, when he loaned £17m to the Ali al-Faraj regime through his company Portpin Ltd. He claims he became operationally involved only in January after becoming concerned about missed payments, and later seized control. "Without sounding like his PR agent, they stepped in at the right time," said Andronikou. "Without their involvement, the club would have been in dire straits. [5]" Andronikou said he hoped to complete a deal within four to six weeks. Chainrai has previously said he has no interest in long-term ownership of the club [6] and his spokesman said this week he "wants to be repaid his loan and move on". But it has emerged that he may feel his only option is to retain control of the club [7], with Andronikou – the joint administrator on behalf of UHY Hacker Young – preparing to put a Company Voluntary Arrangement to creditors owed about £65m. Chainrai may feel he has no other option but to stay on as owner [8] if he is to recover the £13.5m he is still owed. In January, as the club battled to avoid administration, he was repaid £4m of the loan he injected in October. If creditors agree the move, it could leave Chainrai in control of a club with no debt, a far lower cost base, imminent income in the form of parachute payments and TV revenues and control over Fratton Park and the land around it. Such an arrangement would require Chainrai to put more money into the club [9] to settle with creditors, who would be offered part payment of debts, but the CVA could be structured over several years, minimising upfront investment. With parachute payments worth at least £16m, player sales of up to £30m and the possibility of raising money against future revenues, he could bring in substantial amounts in the summer. The Premier League has agreed to allow Portsmouth to sell players before the transfer window opens – although those players will not be able to play for their new clubs until next season – and Andronikou hopes to shift at least 10 first-team players, raising up to £30m [10], and slash the wage bill in preparation for life in the Championship. Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs, which raised concerns about links between the administrator and Chainrai but has since dropped its opposition to the administration, would be likely to oppose any such arrangement but could be powerless to block it. The administrator has denied any links and said yesterday he was "not at all" concerned about perceptions if Chainrai remained in control. "Ultimately, my responsibility is to the creditors. We have got to make a proposal to them that they feel is right. The personalities don't really come into, in terms of who the charge holder is or who they could be." Andronikou would not be drawn on Chainrai's long term plans: "I think he just wants to do the right thing to make sure the club survives. [11] As long as the club survives, his money is alive. Who knows from there? It could be a brief love affair or a long one." Andronikou said yesterday that there were no obvious buyers for the club, but added that one may yet emerge. "The other option is that the company stays at it is, that the current owners stay with the company and that we exit through a CVA with a restructured overhead base," he said.He added: "My remit wasn't necessarily to go out and find a buyer, it was to restructure and get it onto a level playing field. In the last six or seven months Portsmouth has become a bit of a hot potato and passed around. We're not going to pass a slightly cooler potato to someone who we don't think is going to be credible [12]. We've got a duty to make sure it stays in the right hands." HMRC, owed at least £15m, would oppose any move to pay creditors anything less than the full amount they are owed but may be powerless to prevent a CVA, which would offer them a certain proportion of their debt, being agreed. A CVA needs to be supported by 75% of the total creditor base. Sacha Gaydamak, who claims to be owed more than £30m, is the biggest single creditor. If he were to agree to the CVA, he would also be likely to hand over the key pockets of land surrounding the ground. "Sacha is the largest independent creditor and will have to agree the CVA. I have to say they have been supportive throughout the whole process [13]," said Andronikou. Andronikou said yesterday that it was still "early days" for his promised investigation into the club's murky finances over the past eight months and that it was too soon to comment on claims that sums of at least £1.5m may have gone missing from the club's client account in January [14]. [1] So he hasn't actually told you that then, Andy? [2] You forgot the box that says "I am interested in owning the Club", Andy. [3] No surprise there then, Andy. [4] That would be the same facility that the Judge described as "a prospect, but no more than a prospect of funding" then, Andy? [5] Lucky they did become involved then Andy, to make their straits now so much less dire. (What was the name of that album again, something to do with brothers?) [6] But he was only kidding, Andy, wasn't he? [7] So he hasn't actually told you that either then, Andy? [8] Or that, Andy? [9] Good luck there, Andy. [10] Half the first team are on loan, Andy. Remember that. You're not allowed to sell those ones. [11] He didn't actually tell you that either then, Andy? [12] But you're trying to pass it to somebody who doesn't want it, Andy. [13] Slip of the tongue, Andy? Sacha is plural? There's more than one of him? [14] Illicit payments for the loanees signed in January, Andy? It's utter nonsense. AA is trying to create Plan 'C', and force it down Chainrai's throat. I can't see that going down too well. Plan 'A' is to find a mug to buy the club and pay back Chainrai's debt. That's not going too well at the moment. Plan 'B' is to liquidate the Company once it has enough cash to pay back the secured creditor's in full. AA is working on that one. Player sales, advances on future income, etc. And Plan 'D' is for AA to get out quick. That's why the debt is now climbing through the roof. "The true facts of the level of debt were concealed from us by the CEO and the SoA"? And Her Majesty's finest are watching closely.
  4. I don't think HMRC, on their own, will be able to prevent a CVA. I don't think that they will have more than 25% of the unsecured debt or more than 50% of the non-associated unsecured debt. The real issue is whether, absent a buyer, there can be a bona fide CVA proposal at all? They have to offer the creditors either a reasonable amount of cash now (needs a buyer) or a very substantial proportion of future revenue (TV money and parachutes) as it arises. With a CVA in place they would exit administration, sort of debt free¹, and AA would pass the "slightly cooler" potato back to it's owners (whoever they are), but how on earth will the "owners" be able to run the club with most of the foreseable income gone? ¹ the football related debts would still, of course, have to be paid in full to get a playing licence for next year.
  5. As I understand things, I don't think he can. He could give them some money, but he can't loan them some. To do so would increase the debt and worsen the position of the creditors overall, unless there was an equivalent or greater increase in the (reasonably liquid) assets. That's why he needs to: Sell players outside the window, or Get an advance on the future TV rights payment, or Get an advance on the parachute money
  6. I'm sure Baloo will want to be represented. After all, the first task of the committee is to agree on the scope and extent of the investigation to be conducted by the administrators into the previous financial transactions. HMRC didn't roll over for nothing.
  7. He hasn't put up £15m to fund the admin process.
  8. Tomorrow (10 days from 16th). But that was to "set up" the creditor's committee, not sure if there was a definitive order about a meeting. And, IIRC, tomorrow's also the 4 week anniversary of administration. Another 4 to go until the deadline to make proposals to creditors. So, halfway through, he's got countless potless "buyers" who've said they want to buy but can't, and one potted "buyer" who can but says he doesn't want to. And a £3m wage bill to be paid in the next couple of days. No wonder he's gone quiet.
  9. I don't think he has.
  10. From the article in The News: It was a second piece of good news at Fratton Park yesterday, after five training ground staff were re-instated thanks to the generosity of the team's players, who struck an agreement with administrators to bring them back for the remainder of the season. They, along with manager Avram Grant and other backroom staff, will contribute towards the wages of long-serving training ground manager Tug Wilson, assistant kit manager Clarke Denford, masseur Warwick Harvey, performance analyst Garvan Stewart and kit helper Mary Butcher. The players' PFA representative Hermann Hreidarsson said: 'Everyone is part of the team here and we wanted to help. It was the least we could do.' So will they be on the bench, or straight into the starting line up?
  11. I do, but only because I can buy them for about £1 a packet. Don't know about Hatch, though.
  12. So now the deal is that you can buy £95m of debt for only £30m. No wonder those hedge fund boys are interested.
  13. I must admit that I did smile when SSN reported last night that Pompey had had a good day in Court yesterday for a change. Sure, they lost. And now owe Campbell £1.72m (and I'm sure pay his costs as well), as an unsecured creditor, who will be paid at exactly the same time as all the other football-related unsecured creditors. Lucky for them they didn't have a bad day, then.
  14. Will it come down then, when the rate improves after the election?
  15. Are Saints & Brighton still only playing 45 games each on there?
  16. Yep. v Campbell today v HMRC tomorrow
  17. It's in Court 17 at 10.30 before Lewison
  18. The BBC article linked earlier has it down for tomorrow. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/8567019.stm?
  19. Did she have nice legs?
  20. Remember, we're talking about poor little Pompey here. Normal rules, obviously, don't apply.
  21. I guess you can put me in the deluded camp then While I don't actually know, for obvious reasons, I don't rule out the possibility that revenue is meeting the club's running costs. Big crowds and extra games in cup runs helps a lot. We can afford to field a so-called multi million pound team not just because of Markus's personal wealth, but because we get an average of 20,000+ at home games, and more of them (with prize and tv money) because we are (relative to other L1 clubs) successful in the cups. Lower placed teams with our gates would also have stronger squads. Astute transfer fees paid are not revenue items, they're investments - assets on the balance sheet. And they can be sold, windows permitting, at any time, and probably for more than they cost. Overall, I am enjoying this season, and expect to be looking at League 1 from where Norwich are now next season. I don't spend a lot of time worrying about what will happen if we aren't. We don't know whether Markus's plan was to buy the club for £15m and sell it 5 years later for £50m, or to own a football club, and enjoy it, knowing that it isn't costing him anything, and he can get his investment back anytime he wants to. Either way, we owe him a great deal.
  22. I think you're right. I "remembered" reading that the administrator (Keily) said it was secured. When I read back, he said he has seen evidence that it is correct, not secured. My mistake. Makes the rest of my post a load of bőllocks, then.
  23. I think the debt position at the time of going into administration is the relevant point. I think the purpose of administration is to improve the prospect for creditors, not make it worse. I think, therefore, that the administrators can't increase the debt (that begs the question of whether they can accept Chainrai's "offer" of £15m) The administrators have said that the total debt is either £78m or £83m The administrators have said that Gaydamak's debt is £30.5m and is secured The administrators have said that Chainrai's debt is £13.5m and is secured Therefore the "unsecured" debt is, at most, either £34m or £39m (bear in mind that football creditors are included as "unsecured" even though they will be paid in full later by a new owner, so those creditors have no reason not to agree to any CVA) HMRC were owed £12.1m at the time of administration. That should not increase, as the administrators must pay HMRC as it falls due during administration. HMRC represents either 31% or 36% of the unsecured debt, and will be required to agree to any CVA if further points deductions and embargos are to be avoided.
  24. Are you suggesting that somebody is actually running Pompey? Avram is running the team Peter is, ummm, ........... Andy is running round clucking, looking for his head Mark is doing whatever he does, pro-bono of course Daniel is, no doubt, doing what he does best before Friday afternoon Tanya is keeping her head down, making sure her powder doesn't get wet Did I miss anybody?
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