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No, but that is effectively what they are saying, UK GDP was >1% higher than Germany, fact. This implies that without Brexit we would have grown >7% more and IMO growing that much more than Germany was highly unlikely. I can’t be arsed to go and find the original article but the German comparison was one thing that I noted.

Just like some skew data to reflect their own ‘remain’ bias. It works both ways. Do you think it makes sense to use US GDP data when surely we should only be compared with EU nations? I understand the authors of the report admitted this and revised the numbers accordingly.

No, I’m not saying that, it probably has affected our GDP figures, but by how much nobody really knows. I go back to my point, if you think that we would have grown >7% more than Germany had we’d stayed in the EU, I would seriously question that. Remember I voted to remain but to keep saying Brexit was a disaster is IMO wrong.

Yes, that’s the report that has been criticised for using US data. Also reported as a BoE report which it wasn’t.

So you’re saying our GDP would be 6% higher. Since Brexit we have grown more than 1% more than Germany, do you honestly think we would have grown >7% more than Germany? The figures I think you are referring to have been debunked because they compare us to US who had huge growth in part due to fracking, take them out of the equation and the figure halves. Even then the figures are just an estimate, nobody really knows.

6% of what?

So if we had stayed in the EU our GDP would have grown about 7% more than Germany, really?

One of those moments you’ll never forget. Magnificent commentary too, by not saying a word.

To be fair, I think Burnham comes across quite well, far more 'statesmanlike' than Starmer, but wear a shirt and tie FFS.

With Starmer quitting and Burnham in all probability shortly to become PM, this country faces a massive and critical question: Do we rename this thread 'The Burnham Years....' or start a new one?

Nah, I think this guy was a miserable socialist, like some of the ones on here.

Very true. To be fair I did tell the wife it was unwise to wear her ‘I love Nigel’ T-shirt.

You normally use the word ‘cunt’.

At Lenate Milan airport, unbelievably rude customs official, not to me but to the Mrs. The Italians have been so welcoming until this wanker.

By not punishing small businesses and making it easier to employ people, especially youngsters. Also, I was talking about the GDP in the 10 years since Brexit, not just the two years under Labour.

That’s politics.

He’s been hounded out by his own party, mostly due to the lack of clear policy and numerous u-turns. IMO the economy is doing ok despite Labour, it could be doing much better.

Brexit has been a disaster, yet the UK has grown more than the major European economies, how odd. Let’s tax Brexit voters more than those that voted Remain, hilarious 😆. They’ll be giving me a vote next 😳

Yeah, absolutely that simple.

Anything happening back home?

It’s happened under both Tory and Labour governments, it’s acceptable under our system, let’s just accept it.

There’s another thread for this mate

Fuck me it’s hot here at Lake Garda

This shows why we need to simplify the tax system and do away with NI, it’s just another income tax but people don’t understand that.

Luckily for Steve they don’t sound the same.