Lord Duckhunter

You don’t half come out with some cobblers.

Oasis guitarist Noel Gallagher slams Glastonbury for becoming ‘Woke’ and calls festival goers waving Palestinian flags “F*king Idiots.’ The musician took aim at this years festival after it was filled with Pro-Palestine messaging. “It’s getting a bit woke now, that place, and a bit kind of preachy and a bit virtue-signalling. I don’t like it in music – little f*cking idiots waving flags around and making political statements and bands taking the stage and saying, ‘Hey guys, isn’t war ­terrible, yeah? Let’s all boo war. F*ck the Tories man,’ and all that. It’s like, look – play your f*cking tunes and get off.” Source: The Guardian

Do you need 100k constituencies under PR? I imagine you’ll end up with Regions long term, but pure PR where 20% of votes equals 20% of seats , you don’t.

The SNP would be fucked under this Soggy PR. They’re pretty much a single issue party, with only a tiny % of the UK population giving a shiny shite about their independence.

No he employs them. Looks like they’ve abandoned the “tough on crime” bit of the new Labour slogan, as he thinks we lock up too many people. Interesting to see the results.

I’m on ignore, so you wouldn’t see it anyway.

This is the whole point of FPTP & why the Americans vote for their president the way they do. It protects low population areas & stops all decisions and policy favouring the high population areas. 6 Cornish MP’s could influence legislation when there’s a small majority, far more than 600,000 votes ever could. If Gaza support is important to a local area, why shouldn’t that view be reflected in Parliament. Fuck me, people moan about London enough as it is, imagine how bad it would be if legislators were elected under PR. Who are you to decide on what or how many issues people can be elected over. Ridiculous….

Great point. As the Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band sang “No Matter Who You Vote For The Government Always Gets in”. That could be the campaign slogan for PR. The same suspects would be walking into Westminster next week, Truss, Mordaunt, Shapps, JRM, Steve Baker. Ed Balls and Cleggy would probably still be heavily involved in deciding our laws. Nigel Farage would have been in Parliament for years by now. Soggy bangs on about Government for the people by the people, but there’s no purer form than FPTP. PR is government for the people by technocrats & party apparatchiks.

There’s a cigarette paper between Hunt & Reeves. Lord Call me Daves foreign policy will be mirrored by Lammy. Taxes will be roughly the same. Legal immigration will be similar, the NHS model won’t change. They are 2 checks of the same arse, with a bit of difference around social policy. They could all be in the same Blair led party. The only difference will be competence, if this lot are as incompetent, they’ll get binned regardless of whether The Tories “lurch to the left”. Judge Government by what it does, not what it says it’ll do. When you look at their “lurch to the right” on migrants, it was only the language that lurched that way, the policy was exactly the same as Starmers will be. They’ll pick the boats up, house them here and not send them anywhere. In other words exactly the same. The Tories pretended they would send them to Rwanda & Labour will pretend they’ll send them to their country of origin. They won’t “smash the gangs” anymore than the Tories. It’s all propaganda pony. I’ve been hearing this “lurch to the right” pony for years,when’s it going to happen, because I’m looking forward to it.

Fair play to Soggy for getting on his old hobby horse & parroting Nigel’s lines. & without PR in the European elections we’d probably have never heard the name Nigel Farage. So again, fair play to Soggy for going into bat for it. Although I suspect the desire to see it isn’t principled, more an opportunity to post “far right” pony when there’s 16% “far right racists” sat on the opposition benches. I’ve always been in favour of FPTP & this election absolutely highlighted why it’s the best form of democracy imo. Local people electing a representative to represent them in a Westminster, what could be purer than that? Liz Truss, JRM,the fat lazy arse with a 19k majority in my constituency, all the cabinet ministers that lost their seats, Ashworth, all booted out by local people wanting someone else to represent the local area. They would all have been on party lists or some other device and been walking into Parliament next week. The big moan about “safe seats” and “wasted votes” are only that, because the voters make them that and increasingly safe seats are becoming a thing of the past.

Dear God. You’d have thought a GE where a party on the right of the present Tory one polled 4 million votes (600k more than your beloved Lib Dems) might finally stop you parroting this pony. But no, whatever you, Fat Pang or some other dripping wet “centralist” believes (or want to believe) the Tories lost seat after seat because Reform stood against them from the Right. When your type of Tory stood against them previously (change UK) & Nigel stood the troops down, the Tories ended up with an 80+ majority. There was no fucking “lurch to the right” , had there been Reform wouldn’t have polled anywhere near 4 million votes. I’m not saying the Tories would have won, they wouldn’t have. But they wouldn’t have suffered such a hammering. Personally, I hope they do “lurch to the left”, because if they do Nigel will finally finish them off , and we’ll end up with a proper right of centre party.

They’re definitely nearing their ceiling with Nigel in charge at the moment. 100% there’s a gap for a socially conservative party, but their economic policy is too Thatcherite for the voters they’ll need. However, Europe has shown us that if the establishment don’t deal with immigration & things don’t “change” everything’s in play. The Demographic analysis of their voters this time will be interesting as Nigel claims he’s resonating with 18-24 year olds, and obviously the Tories direction will make a massive difference. Long term there will be an opening because I’m pretty sure the Tories will get wetter and pinker. Interestingly, Tice was entering into some sort of pact with SDP prior to Nigel’s glorious return. They’re way further left on the economy , and are pretty small time. But, there’s not much between the parties on 80% of policy. They want controlled borders, to leave the ECHR, they share the same anti woke agenda, want an English Parliament, PR, are against net zero targets & had “family, neighbourhood and nation”, as their tag line. Long term maybe some sort of hybrid party with a less controversial leader could emerge.

Nige stood his troops down in ‘19 & the result was a 80 odd seat majority. He’s decimated the Tories this time, done more to damage them since Tony Blair & James Goldsmith, yet he’s still on his high horse. One silver lining, at least he’ll STFU about PR for 5 years.

I don’t know about the world stage, but he embarrassed himself on Mastermind, and who can forget the infamous “we haven’t seen a policeman round here”. Anyway, today is not the day, the population has spoken & Starmer has been given the mandate to choose his foreign sec. Let him at least start the job before piling in.

Great to see Nige finally get a seat, and he proved to be a man of his word by decimating the Tories. Pleased for Tice as well, he could have thrown his toys out of the pram when Nige returned but knuckled down & got his rewards. Glad to see that twat Elwood getting binned in Bournemouth & pleased for IDS, although that was a bit of a fluke. He could have easily settled for a place in the lords, but stood up to be counted. Although I don’t share his politics, Parliament needs people like Jon Ashworth so it’s disappointing he’s lost to some Gaza loon. As someone who wishes the sweaties would fuck off, I’m dissatisfied with the SNP efforts as well. locally, fuck me, I’ve got a labour MP. I posted yesterday that a couple of polling station workers said something was happening locally, but never in a million years did I think we’d get a labour MP. A combination of taking voters for granted, Reform standing a paper candidate who didn’t really campaign & didn’t even live in Poole, and the complete fucking shafting Poole has had following the Tory led BCP merger, has cost Sir Robert his cushy seat. Although I posted if Symes is worried the Tories really are in trouble, it is quite unbelievable. Still, in a strange way it’s restored more faith in our democratic process. The bloke, the local party, & the local Tory council, did fuck all the 28 years I’ve been here, thinking they didn’t need to. I think they know differently now. Nige has been fighting against FPTP for a number of years, but on this I fundamentally disagree with him. Local people sending someone to Westminster to represent them is the purest form of democracy imo. Let’s see if this Labour bloke can do something for the Town & stick up for us. Fucking hell if he sorts out a new bridge to replace the ridiculous white elephant we’ve got at the moment, even I might vote for him in 2029.

Sweaty blaming the Tories for SNP result 😂

Davey is a massive cock Womble but there’s no need for the son dig. All I’ve read for years is how we need adults in the room, how we need serious politicians to address serious issues. Yet this fucking clown has got away with the most pathetic low grade campaign in living memory. Pound shop Boris who only got away with it because he’s on the “right” side. Fucking hell from Jo Swinsons massive tits, to a massive tit.

Just nipped round to vote. Told I’d already voted, which I hadn’t. Luckily I knew one of the birds there who said she’d seen my son & Snap Dragon earlier , double checked and some dope had marked me off instead of son. Shambles. She’s been working polling day for years & said they’d been “ very busy”. Older sons Mrs is working another polling station & she told him it’s the busiest of the 3 GE’s she’s worked. Bit strange if there’s a big turnout as Sir Robert has a 19k majority, was a Brexiter & was quite hardline anti lockdown, so in line with a lot of the voters round here. Despite being a bit of an arse, and a fucking yes man, don’t see what’s driving the apparent possible large turnout. If he’s in trouble, the Tories will end up with about 50 seats.

I wouldn’t know. I went to school under Grocer Heath & Wilson.

Agreed 100% . Both for private individuals & companies. Companies should be incentivised to offer health insurance to ordinary Joe’s.

Lefties, not pinkos. Get it right….

Soggy & Nige on the same page..