Lord Duckhunter

Ahh yes, the reply the second game behind closed doors option, yeah, realistically good option that one. 😂😂

Pages and pages of pony, and nobody can. Once the first leg was played, it was all or nothing. Playing the first leg had fuck all to do with The panel, the bloke who played 1 game for Boro or “Gibbo”, and it was what 100% of people on here wanted.

Course we did…..

If you’re caught with the plank of wood, it’s your own fucking fault nobody else…

Get over it you fanny

Im not convinced none of them knew, like all of us & 99% of the media,they didn’t quite realise how serious it would be taken. If it was kept from the players, it blows “we didn’t know it was illegal “ defence out the water, if you thought it was legal you’d say “we had Oxford watched yesterday” & they’ll playing X formation today”. I know some are a bit dopey, but surely some senior pros who have played for a dozen managers and 5 or 6 clubs would suspect something. I’m praying Baz was in on it, and faces a lengthy ban.

I wonder if this would have happened if Trollope was still the Asst, or even Les Read as DoF. Seems to me that this inexperienced talented bloke, had the run of the place as was able to run roughshod over established practices. As long as I can remember young inexperienced managers have had experienced mentors to lean on, even in an unofficial capacity. I’ve been reading about Ferguson’s Aberdeen days & he’d frequently discuss things with Jock Stein who took him under his wing. Lawrie obviously had Ted around the place. They don’t seem to now, and that’s a massive gap in mangers locker. They all think they know it all. Without opening a new can of worms, what about the senior players. Did they not at least suspect something with the information he was bringing to the table. Different era I know, but I’m sure a player of two would have had a quiet word with Lawrie had they thought he was crossing a line. And that line would cost them and the club a massive amount. It seems it was so widespread that somebody somewhere should have known, and ultimately somebody should pay for that regardless of whether they knew or not.

Wow, why didn’t Lord Panic think of this. Shame we didn’t employ you instead, we’d defo be heading to Wembley tomorrow 🤣🤣🤡

Dear God, Just because there’s no designated punishment doesn’t mean there can’t be one.

Can you explain it to Metal Mickey

There’s no points in a knock out competition. God, you’re dopey. We cheated in 2 competitions, the one based on points, we got a points deduction. Once the play offs were deemed a separate competition, we couldn’t have points deduction 🤡

I do feel a bit sorry for the bloke, you have to remember he’s a young man himself given a massive opportunity very early in his career. I’ve no doubt he knew it was illegal in England, but I imagine he thought the consequences would be worth the risk, and won’t have dreamed it would blow up in his face. He was clearly good for this group of players & if it was him who decided to ditch Baz & AA, get some strong personalities through the door, then that’s a massive tick. However, the job someone faces this summer isn’t the same job, and I’m not sure asking the arsonist in to clear up the fire can really work. It will be a new group of players, with new leadership needed & a kind drawn under the whole sorry affair. Personally I don’t thin it will help anyone if there’s a media circus for the first month of the season, every press conference, every after match interview, he’ll be asked or called a cheat. Every away game, bile will pour down at him & his players. His position is untenable, it’s as simple as that.

There was absolutely zero chance the EFL would promote Hull and give up their most important game, anymore than the FA would give up the FA final or FIFA the World Cup final if semi final winner had cheated. No chance whatsoever, it wasn’t a Middlesbrough thing. Had Hull been the ones cheating, we’d be facing Millwall tomorrow

That’s just a catch all in case a team come up with a way to “cheat” the authorities hadn’t thought of. They can claim there was no rule against it, but will still face a sanction.

That’s the only thing they could have done. But most people (me included) assumed that once that tie went ahead we were in the clear in respect of being turfed out. Maybe we should have got ahead of this, admitted everything from day one, and asked for the sanctions to be administered that Sun/Mon. That would have left the option of a 3-0 defeat on the table. Of course the alternative could have been the panel chucked us out anyway. Once that game was played, the Sporting sanctions were either, future ban from play offs, or ???. Part of the sanctions has to be to discourage future transgressions. Now we’re chucked out, nobody will spy in a play off game, had we been playing Sat, what would the deterrent be to stop a team doing it next season. We know in the league will be 3 points per game (reduced under certain circumstances), but what would stop anyone doing it playoffs only had we remained in them?