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I put it in AI, so treat with caution. But it came back with this. Ultimately, while buying a player from another English academy helps you meet the Premier League's squad registration quotas, it does absolutely nothing special for your PSR balance sheet until that player has been at your club for years. For an immediate financial fix, clubs must sell the talent they grew themselves. If Southampton were to sell both players for the exact same amount right now, selling Shea Charles would be better for PSR than selling Caspar Jander. Even though neither came through Southampton's own academy, Charles is much more profitable on the accounts because of how long he has been at the club and how amortisation works. Here is the exact financial breakdown of why Charles gives the bigger PSR boost. The Math Behind Shea Charles • The Purchase: Southampton signed Charles from Manchester City's academy in July 2023 for an initial fee of £10.5m on a 4-year contract. • The Amortisation: His fee has been hitting the accounts at £2.625m per year (£10.5m divided by 4). • Current Book Value: Having been at the club for three full seasons, £7.875m of his fee has already been written off. His remaining book value on the balance sheet is just £2.625m. The Math Behind Caspar Jander • The Purchase: Southampton signed Jander from FC Nürnberg in August 2025 for a reported £10.4m on a 4-year contract. • The Amortisation: His fee hits the accounts at £2.6m per year (£10.4m divided by 4). • Current Book Value: Since he has only completed one season at St Mary's, only £2.6m has been written off. His remaining book value is still a hefty £7.8m. The Scenario: Selling both for £20 million If a club comes in and buys either player for £20m, here is what the PSR profit looks like on Southampton’s spreadsheet: $$ \text{PSR Profit} = \text{Sale Price} - \text{Remaining Book Value} $$ • Selling Shea Charles: £20m (Sale) - £2.625m (Book Value) = £17.375m PSR Profit • Selling Caspar Jander: £20m (Sale) - £7.8m (Book Value) = £12.2m PSR Profit The Verdict Selling Shea Charles nets Southampton roughly £5.175m more in PSR profit than selling Jander for the exact same fee. Because Charles has already run down most of his contract length, his remaining "book cost" is incredibly low, making his sale function much closer to the "pure profit" of a homegrown academy graduate. Jander, being a newer signing, still has too much unamortised transfer debt attached to his name.
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I would have thought we’ve got a legitimate argument to say you either punish the club or the individual, not both. If a club plays an ineligible player, they get chucked out the cup competition, the manager who picked him, or the bod who didn’t register him don’t get a ban. Equally, if a player commits a doping offence, he gets banned, but the club don’t receive a sporting sanction as well. You never know with the FA, but I suspect we wouldn’t have gone balls out on backing Tonda if we thought there was a chance he’ll receive a lengthy ban.
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I’m sure the fact he went through Man City’s academy means selling him will be better for the profit rules than selling Jander or someone else for the exact same fee. I’m not 100% sure as it’s complicated, but I think selling someone who came through an English academy does benefit the profitability more than a foreign one. Therefore it might be the case that selling 2 English players, would be the same as selling 3 foreign ones as far as PSR is concerned .
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Daniel Peretz - Official: Signs 4 Year Contract
Lord Duckhunter replied to CSA96's topic in The Saints
Fucking biased twats, gutter press. Had Middlesbrough signed a Bayern reserve keeper it would be all over the front pages….. -
You’d hope they’ve had a steer from the FA, or have sound legal advice that he’s not getting a ban. The alternative is, it’s ST renewal time and they now seem to have pretty much everyone back onboard the bus. “ We wanted to keep him, but it was out of our hands, thanks for renewing”.
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Peter Hitchens made a good point over the weekend, which just about sums up the state of plod nowadays. They were responding to a 999 call claiming racist abuse and a turban knocked off his head, they didn’t think they were attending a stabbing, or violent assault. 4 officers rushed to the scene, 4, for racist abuse and knocking off of a turban. If you’re burgled or mugged, you’re lucky to get one rocking up a day or 2 later. That’s the issue with modern day policing, priorities are all wrong and it comes from the top. These poor officers will be thrown to the wolves, but it’s senior officers & the establishment who have created the modern police “service”. They’re social workers in a uniform, not proper local coppers.
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I used to watch it, then stopped watching it for the reasons given. Which was the exact point I made. Dopey
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The more I think about it, the more questions arise. I can’t for the life of me believe his agent will advise playing in the World Cup as a free agent, not with his injury record. Of course he could could score 2 or 3 goals and boost his options off the back of it, but seriously, that maybe worth the risk if he’s Larin or Ivan Toney, but FFS, surely he won’t take that risk. Based on that, he’s either playing hardball to squeeze some more from us, or he’s got a watertight contract signed elsewhere, but not announced yet. What is the score with a medical, will he need one to get a new deal from us, I presume not. I can’t see Steve Clarke wanting him to go off for a medical, or the fall out if he fails it. Therefore based on this logic, and the fact there’s been no hint of interest elsewhere or no rumours of a medical, my confident prediction is a new Saints deal will be announced/ signed prior to Scotlands first game.
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That was the point I was making dopey.
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Clearly not the clubs fault (if you take the spying bit away). From what I understand it wasn’t an open ended “you can extend the contract anytime up until 5 days after the last game”. It was a specific “in the 5 days following the last game”. The only way we could have resigned him before we were chucked out, would have been on different terms. It’s pretty hard to get a deal done when you don’t know which league you’re be in, & by the time we knew, the deadline had passed.
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It’s a pony hipster phrase, but I’ll use it. His “ceiling” is what we’ll be losing, rather than what he’s actually producing week in week out. He’s not a guaranteed starter, was left out of big games, and personally I find him a bit too lackadaisical sometimes. But there’s no doubt there’s a talent in there. As disappointing as it will be to lose him, we’re strong in that area and Flynn Downes, despite being less talented, would probably be more of a miss. If he won’t sign a new contract, and we need to shift someone on, it makes sense it’s him.
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Disappointing if he leaves, especially as we had a clause, I guess we were waiting until we knew which league we’d be in. Can’t blame him or his agents, it’s business and we’d have binned him at the end of the season if we wanted to. I liked Ross, think he’s a quality player….. when fit. And that’s the issue, we didn’t have a lot of choice, we had to manage him and his minutes through our great run. We have a choice now, we have time to get a replacement in. Somebody who can play 3 games a week if needed (say Larin got sent off & 3 game ban/ injury). We got lucky really, in that we could manage his minutes, we may not be so lucky next season. Whilst I’d rather we kept him, it’s not the end of the world if he moves on.
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I had some drying paint that needed watching instead. It’s a load of old pony, was bad enough when Dimbleby was presenting, it’s unwatchable with the dopey 6 Pinter from Antique’s roadshow. It’s question time, the clue is in the name. The audience should ask questions and then STFU. It’s as bad as those Vox pops the broadcasters are obsessed with. Who cares what Sally from Barnet thinks about the budget or how it will affect her family life? So no, I didn’t.
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I don’t think watching question time is quite the intellectual measure you think it is. It hasn’t been a serious political programme for years. Horrendous host, no mark politicians, and a bunch of middle class twats in the audience. The fact the BBC seem to think it’s a flagship programme says it all.
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Soggy & his lunchtime buddies will be…
