Lord Duckhunter

I’m wondering whether our legal team agreed to a quick turnaround believing we’d never be chucked out & being seen to help in the hastening of a decision would earn us a lighter sanction. Probably would have done, if the other stuff hadn’t come to light at the weekend. With hindsight, we obviously should have applied time pressure on the EFL, but sticking to the strict letter of the law. Taking the maximum time to answer the charge & insist on 14 days to appeal after the full reasoning was published.

Interesting if we’re challenging the process, specifically the 14 days on appeal. Wasn’t there a top lawyer bid who questioned the part about full details of report being released later in summer. He said, how can you have a fair appeal if you can’t read the full findings & have time to digest them.

Didn’t somebody who posted this morning that Tonda was involved also allude to bullying. I wonder if this will be the defence of any junior staff caught up in this and facing a ban. I wonder if the whistleblower feels he was bullied into doing it.

To believe he didn’t know it was illegal, you also have to believe we didn’t spy on anyone else. Surely if you thought it was legal, you’d spy on more than Oxford, Ipswich & Boro

Do we really believe Tonda, who we’re told, lives and breathes football, was unaware of the Canadian birds at the olympics or of Beilsa and Leeds. Are we seriously to believe nobody at the club informed him, or mentioned it maybe illegal, when people were sent up to grounds. If that’s the case why did the spy try and run off. Surely if you’re doing something perfectly legal, you’d say “I’m from Southampton, watching your training” when asked what he was doing and who he was.

Go down the charge back if by debit or section 75 route if you paid by Credit card. I got a refund once, minus the delivery charge and my CC company paid that…

Do people still believe this? “A bit”, “incompetent”. Only getting caught once, shows a level of competence. Anyone who doesn’t think there was widespread attempts to cheat is living in cloud cuckoo land. I suspect that’s why the punishment is so harsh, they knew full well we were at it a lot more than we admitted.

Well you were full of yourself today, how you loved “winding up” Middlesbrough fans, updates from their fiporum. Oh how you laughed, you’re not fucking laughing now are you…

Anybody who thinks we spied against Oxford, then didn’t before spying against Ipswich is deluded. Why spy on Oxford, but not try and spy on Coventry, Wrexham or Derby. Some of our supporters made right cocks of themselves, gas lighting and trolling Boro supporters, updating us on how deluded their forum was, and then attacking a couple of posters who seem to have been ITK. We cheated, it appears it was widespread and came from the top. It wasn’t some twat with an I phone and it wasn’t 2 other games. I really can’t be any appeal being successful, so this will royally fuck a decent opportunity to build something good out of a couple of shite seasons. People need to be sacked asap. The players and supporters have been let down massively….

It’s not bizarre it’s a bloody disgrace. The cup final was last Sat, it’s inconceivable we wouldn’t know who was playing, or even if the game was going ahead, until the Weds before. The press would be all over it for one thing, you can’t tell me they’d do this to City or Chelsea or other big clubs. The EFL are showing what a fucking noddy outfit they are.

We don’t want his political pony in this thread. Who gives a flying fuck whether he worked for the Times, Guardian or fucking Tit bits.

Unbelievable for the bloke really. I’m sure he’d have taken just making it to the end of the season injury free if you’d asked him at Xmas. Let’s hope, whether it’s with us or not, that all his misfortune is behind him and he can finally have a decent run and a few seasons injury free

Give it a rest you boring twat.

That makes me feel a lot more positive. If the league get to influence the sanction, they’ll clearly want Sat game to go ahead. Hopefully, the guilty/not guilty decision is totally independent but the “prosecutor” is involved if guilt is established. The fact the full written judgement won’t be released until later in the summer also indicates that the EFL know what they want and more importantly know we’ll accept what they want.

Clearly, they’ll get a points deduction rather than be thrown out. I imagine Middlesbrough’s case will be the play offs aren’t the league, it’s a separate cup competition. I’m not saying it is or it isn’t, or arguing with anyone one way or the other. It’s just bothering me that IF they decide it’s separate, what is the sporting sanction, because we’ve played the second leg it can’t really be the standard 3-0 forfeited result.