Lord Duckhunter

We don’t want his political pony in this thread. Who gives a flying fuck whether he worked for the Times, Guardian or fucking Tit bits.

Unbelievable for the bloke really. I’m sure he’d have taken just making it to the end of the season injury free if you’d asked him at Xmas. Let’s hope, whether it’s with us or not, that all his misfortune is behind him and he can finally have a decent run and a few seasons injury free

Give it a rest you boring twat.

That makes me feel a lot more positive. If the league get to influence the sanction, they’ll clearly want Sat game to go ahead. Hopefully, the guilty/not guilty decision is totally independent but the “prosecutor” is involved if guilt is established. The fact the full written judgement won’t be released until later in the summer also indicates that the EFL know what they want and more importantly know we’ll accept what they want.

Clearly, they’ll get a points deduction rather than be thrown out. I imagine Middlesbrough’s case will be the play offs aren’t the league, it’s a separate cup competition. I’m not saying it is or it isn’t, or arguing with anyone one way or the other. It’s just bothering me that IF they decide it’s separate, what is the sporting sanction, because we’ve played the second leg it can’t really be the standard 3-0 forfeited result.

If it was the EFL, then they’d defo take the “easy” option. But surely the whole point of an independent panel is to reach the correct decision regardless of the impact on other people indirectly involved.

What if they decide the play offs aren’t part of the league, and are a separate competition. They wouldn’t deduct league points for a transgression in the League cup.

We’re out. Boro V Hull up north next Tuesday or Weds, we get a fine which will cover EFL loses from moving it from Wembley. I just can’t see them ruling this wasn’t a separate competition from the league, in which case they’ll rule points deduction inapplicable.

If it’s gone that high, they’ll kick us out. If Tonda is involved we’re toast.

Let’s see. If the hearing date was as clear cut as you claim, why did the EFL statement say “on or before”. Surely it would just have said “hearing is Tuesday” I don’t believe for one minute they haven’t been on this all weekend.

That’s my take as well. They need to be water tight, dot the i’s & cross the T’s if they’re making such a monumental decision. I just don’t think they need to take as much care or time if the result is Southampton v Hull on Saturday. The EFL aren’t appealing that & Boro can’t. I’m a glass half empty bloke , but can’t believe this would have dragged on so long if it wasn’t extremely serious. This thread could go from taking the piss to a massive whinge fest by the end of the day.

Beyond reasonable doubt won’t apply in that case either.

I’ve always thought the longer it goes on the worse the outcome will be for us. Still believe that, if it goes much past lunchtime today, we’re out imo. Leaves tomorrow for our appeal.

It’s not a criminal case, reasonable doubt won’t come into it. Balance of probabilities will be the measure.

Any party is free to put rejoining without a referenda in their manifesto and then implement it if they receive a mandate. They can also joint the SM,CU or both. This was Ken Clarke’s POV in regard to dealing with UKIP, if you want to leave put it in your manifesto and if you get a mandate we will leave. Labour won’t have the balls to do it though, as the Brexit vote is spread over more constituencies, whereas Leave is heavy in less, so FPTP favours staying out. The terms we will be offered will also be unacceptable to the British people. Joining the euro alone will scupper that idea, and that’s before we get onto Schengen, ponying up, and other conditions they’ll want.