Hockey_saint

The exchange rates have been god awful since the referendum... Either way, I like how the Germans are growing tired of this also and toughening their stance.... https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/05/angela-merkel-takes-significantly-tougher-brexit-stance

Kinda doesn't work online. A bit like sarcasm. Either way meh. I just see this country turning into a very nasty place unless you are a selected type.

I think it'll either go the Jeremy Hunt bonkers way of wanting a French system but not actually paying for it or...if he continues the way he's going, we'll have no doctors to staff it. Either way, that money is going straight into the coffers of big pharma execs and nowhere else.....we the people eh?

Your point?....That's a very minor point by the way, almost point scoring as the titanic sinks....how about the rest, how are they wrong?...do elaborate....

Because they know if they put it to parliament, they'd lose resoundedly so they're using a very undemocratic tool to get their way....the far right of the conservative party all over.

How's it nonsense again? you are talking out of your backside..... https://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/sep/08/kent-children-11-plus-government-plans-grammar-schools Just for you, this is a nice one...imagine it, 2007 and an MP called Theresa May calls Gordon Brown unelected and calls for an election.... http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-may-urged-gordon-brown-to-hold-an-election-when-he-came-to-power-in-2007-a3293521.html You say wrong, but you don't elaborate, mainly because you have no clue what you are talking about.

Your use of "we" is very interesting....who's spending that money again now? Those with besties in the private sector that's who because it sure as heck won't go where it's needed most as that's not the conservative way.

How's it wrong again? she didn't even sit a leadership contest....But please, enlighten us again, we all understand she's an elected MP....From Kent, we understand that, where arcaic grammar schools still exist, we understand that but if she's not unelected, why did she call Gordon Brown such when he got in exactly the same way, you are making no sense... Or is this just blurt out "oh she wears nice shoes so not being elected by here peers against opposition doesn't mean she's unelected anymore"....OOORRRR!!! do you want it like the conservatives do by redrawing the boundaries, and call an essentially one party (person) state "democracy"? Clue for you....That's not democracy.

I'll mention that to the citizens of Gibraltar or Scotland or Northern Ireland. This isn't a game Batman; our currency is tanking, foreign governments have drawn up lists of their companies who no longer want to do business with us whilst we hav the biggest buffoon of the lot as a bloomin foreign sec. and the tory party are basically turning into UKIP; you couldn't make it up. We have a right to continue to protest so we'll continue cheers.

It's going over your head a bit isn't it? You know how our system works for electing a leader as you point out....And you know those MEPs we vote in office every 4 years?.....getting the point? No, they're not undemocratically elected, you're just uncomfortable with being a small fish in a bigger pond.

I can tell you the biggest named MP calling for a new election as Gordon Brown was "unelected"....Theresa May MP. You make it too easy for me. I'll be honest, I just can't understand your reasoning, either you believe every lie the right wing media, such as the Daily Mail tells you and you're a fool or you actually have some brains and just enjoy politically suicidal gambles. The conservatives took us into Europe and ever since, the sinister, bitter, little Englander side of the party have been trying to drag us out again. Nuts. There is a stereotype that all football fans are nothing more than mindless rightwing apes.....don't be one of those.

How did Nigel Farage become an MEP again? Oh yes, he was voted in democratically. What a pile of hyperbolic nonsense. What you are actually afraid of is becoming a smaller cog in a bigger wheel...move with the times.

I'm totally rational. We have an unelected leader playing to the right wing of her party. Bilateral trade agreements are expensive and time consuming, especially if you want the best deal...perchance...who's knocking on our door at the minute eh?

But do tell, what made you vote leave? were there too many foreigners here...taking up our services...is Britain indeed full or did you buy the old "taking back crontrol" nonsense?

Nor does yours now carry on dreaming of the days of our glorious empire. You are aware it was the traditional position of the left to be against the EU right? That's why Enoch Powell told everyone to vote for them.

Very expensive and frankly, what bargaining position do we have? Our country has just been hijacked by a bunch of bufons who are playing to the racist foreigner hating crowd...we'll be a laughing stock.

Nah but you've clearly got a tinge of "we hate johnny foreigner" about you and a bit of a fantasist. You're argument would also be good if the traditional left didn't go along with your anti-EU stance as well....Comrade.

Indeed. Utterly delusional and living in another age.

All voted remain because they knew where the money came from. Side note, funniest thing I heard during the run up was an old man in shirley tell the brexiteer table he was voting to leave "for my kids" I thought "what an old fool". delusional old man, ruining it for his kids more like.

Good description. An utterly dispicable bunch who think the best way to get along with your neighbours is to insult them. nail on the head westender. Annnd obviously a bunch of spoiled right wing baby boomers living in the past and wishing to ruin the country for the younger, more global generation but you do fit nicely into the football fan stereotype.

That's the point I made to someone at work, the EU isn't perfect by a longshot but it's basically just a stepping stone to entirely interconnected planet....kinda like how every futuristic movie show a "one world council" and such. Anything else is just living in the past.

Not sure how much we pay those dodgy Brussells politicians...we should ask Nige how much he's on to prop up the bars there.

That's where London basically, with one voice, voting to remain becomeas....as Dave put it "deliciously ironic". Because even the fat cats in the city are not foolish enough to think this wont financially cripple us. The same fat cats who fund the tory party as well.

Give it time, we've not left the EU yet...but we've already dropped a place in the richest country list. Besides, you're just a poor man's Thatcherite GM...not a very bright one either since, as I say, everyone she worked with agrees she'd fined the course of action you leavers are suggesting to be totally bonkers.

The only turkeys voting for Christmas were the EU dependant Welsh voting to leave...the morons.