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Too weak, too slow, too meek, too indecisive. Can be cut through like a knife through butter.

Look at the unedited post I originally quoted.

You added the rhetorical bit in after my post. At that point it was just a question.

I don't think anyone would argue that he or the team were doing well at this point but the hyperbole around Mane from some on here was ridiculous. Comparisons with Ali Dia and questions over whether he can actually kick a ball for example. This completely ignored the fact that he had already played well for us in games prior to this period, has already been a top player at a European side and was already a full International.

Can you do the David Beckham comparison again? I think people may have forgotten that.

What would be an acceptable answer? Why were you asking the question?

After 69 appearances for Utd (compared to JWP's 74 for Saints) Beckham had cemented his place as Utd's first choice right midfielder, had won two league titles and an FA cup and had won 13 caps for England on route to be becoming a global superstar.

Classic MLG, he doesn't check before he posts.

Nothing in this according to Simon Peach although he will be asking Koeman later.

Ever heard of people taking things for granted?

Yea we are. We also agree that we won't always be getting huge fees for players if we want a good few seasons out of the best ones. kindered bed wetting soppy sod spirits that we are.

Discussing our approach to transfers is hardly indicitive of a pre 2016 meltdown although we all know you're like a dog on heat looking to sniff anything out which even looks like a criticism of uncle Les and co to get your teeth into. It really isn't though, so try not to get too worked up and all frothy at the mouth too soon. Plenty on here talk about sustainability being based on getting players in at good fees and selling them on for a big. Just stating the fact thatit doesn't really work if contracts run to the final year. The flip side is high player turnover each year. Not a criticism or a claim to any of the money involved, just a couple of posts on a forum.

Yep, that's the argument really. If we position ourselves as a "show-case" club, the implication is high player turn-over with 1-2 season max from the ones which do really well for us. If this is really our model, allowing players to enter the final year of their contract is counter to that even if we do get more stability and team performance that way. There is an interesting trade off somewhere down the line.

Except we won't get the increased value if players enter the final year of their contracts. If we offer a 4 year deal and the player does well in year 1, the optimum time to sell is realistically in year 2.

I wonder what our approach is towards building in buy out clauses into player contracts? It's a risk to the player to sign up again if a move to a bigger club is on the horizon but surely there is an option for an interim "win-win" solution which would be a player getting better terms, with Saints able to recover the right fee through the buy out clause which if done right, won't make the player unattainable for bigger sides. Agree with others that Wanyama will be next years Clyne. Mane will be next years Wanyama.

He wasn't. He started well and then had a couple of iffy games and loads went bat**** mental about it.

But Davis has qualities which Jaunmi doesn't posses and is selected on that basis. He's always picked by Koeman (and previously Poch) for a reason and that's despite him knowing that he isn't a massive goal threat. We won't be replacing him Juanmi and effectively end up playing a 424. It just won't happen in the PL. Edit: qouted wrong post, should have been convict colony.

Not really. He's brought up a lot on here but he's never mentioned more broadly than that. He's also ommitted from a lot of people's line up on match build up threads etc yet he'll nearly always play.

There isn't much in that but Lambert was a much better player for us than Pelle is now.

We lost our shape because we were effectively a 424 after he went off and players like Long aren't great at retaining possession. Clasie was definitely not at the races yesterday which is understandable for now.

Old interview, old news. This is what prompted the Koeman comment about coming to Saints for a holiday in his presser.

We're all God's children though aren't we?

If we're going to bring him back, it would have mad sense to do it before pre-season surely?

I don't think there is anything to suggest that he would come here because of Koeman.