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Manning for sure id guess. I'd imagine Larios, although I think Meghoma only has a year in his deal so it could be him going, or perhaps even both of the youngsters

Yep, and yep. Probably also suggests that either Meghoma or Larios ain't sticking around either.

Probably a rhetorical question from you, but of it's a real one, I'm sure that nobody on here gives a monkeys what the good people of Clacton get from their MP. Their decision, their problem. In so frequently questioning people's voting choice, you are questioning people's rights in a democracy. Only a reform voter can tell you why they voted reform, if they want to, but it ain't going to change a thing as the vote is cast. As has been said, let it go.

And there are many that are perpetually unstable. As defective as fptp is, it gives consistently stable (even if shit) governments.

I think it depends on how labour do and the feeling towards them in 2029. If punters feel then that we need change, still don't trust the tories, and our nige carries on his persuasive to the gullible sales pitch, you never know. The sheer number of votes they've gained is staggering.

Good summary, and yep, labour have little wriggle room. I'm sure we'll see massive cuts in taxable pension contributions and tax thereon saving billions, the reduction in the tax free allowance on pension lump sums at 55, possibly the end of ISA's, massive reform in council tax with some kind of re banding as a minimum. There are definitely things they can work with if they want to, but they'll play into reforms hands so it'll be an interesting ride.

See you in 10 years or so.

The numbers show that it's more like the tories losing the public confidence than labour or the libs gaining it. Anyways, we needed that self serving shit show gone, and thank god they have.

The vote share for what it's worth. No real gain for labour or the libs in the popular vote. The defection of voters from tory to reform seems to have been a game changer.

Yep. Osborne made the point - the way he spoke epitomises why the Tories lost.

Streeting surprised me. He's gonna be a big player. They'll probably have to find him a safer seat.

Reform at 4 is just about palatable. Without swathes of votes going their way loads of seats would have gone a different way I think though. They've shaken things up.

Metaphorically and literally. So fucking pleased. I dread to think how much further we'd regress if the Tories stayed in power. Nice little speech from Keir.

That reform vote share though.

Hadn't seen that. Damning. My youngest scored -21 for the Tories on that who to vote for thingy, and her fella -26. The youngsters fucking hate them.

Refreshing honesty from Robert Buckland. Generational issue, long road back, etc - essentially, the Tories are fucked.

What channel?

Yeo. She's a tad happy, as we all should be.

Penny's taken a pounding. So to speak.

Jeremy Hunt seat looks to be gone, ditto Penny Mordaunt.

All the red wall seats lost by the looks of it. 1 predicted as reform, all the rest labour. Absolute carnage.

Glad to hear she's cutting down.

Daft bint.

It's decent. Peston is good, despite that stupid voice, and Sturgeon is hating it which is nice.

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