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Shower trays are sold bare - waste kits are extra. This is just the tray. Picture and details here http://www.wickes.co.uk/Easi-Plumb-Quad-Cast-Stone-Shower-Tray/invt/207310

Same team as last week. 3_1 saints for me.

Tough as it would be on both players I would start with neither. On merit Guly deserves the shirt after last week but this is a must win game. Huddersfield are our main title rivals imo. Huddersfield have a superb midfield and the game will be won/lost there. I would start Lambert on his own up top with morgan/hammond/chappers in the middle with lallana and puncheon coming in from the flanks. Guly and Barney are amazing bench options at this level and I would start them there.

IMO a fresh start is needed. There are a few idiots who seem intent in sabotaging every thread and contributing nothing positive, I can understand why the mods would have become ****ed off with that and thought "uck it I will spend my evenings and weekends doing something that I actually enjoy." FWIW I think that the blend of the mods is as important as the individuals. Eg, 6 boring mods who clamp down on thought control will continue the rot imo. Far better to have a few of sensible souls and a few who will help restore some energy to the site.

Probably. Pulis has 4 caps for them.

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But we do not know the actual reason why AP and his merry men were relieved of their duties. We therefore cannot say whether the decision was justified and by extension whether NC warrants criticism. For me the timing was odd which probably suggests that there was something serious that warranted decisive action. If that is so and the more serious rumours we hear are true then AP had to go. If they are not, and AP simply did not like the new structure (which was introduced after he was appointed), it is hard to see how NC is beyond criticism. No boss would welcome a new management structure being put in place around them. If AP went for footballing reasons then NC should have fired the bullet pre season and/or lined up a replacement before getting rid. With all said and done though, NC seems determined to take our club back to the prem. He doesn't seem to give monkeys if he makes a few enemies on the journey. For that I love the fella.

Very sorry to hear this. My deepest condolences to you and your family. As others have said stay strong and hold onto your fond memories. RIP Valerie.

Cheers! Reaping and sowing etc comes to mind.

Price reduced to £25 as I need the space.

I did indeed - I received rotten information. All these yolks are the least I deserve given the appointment.

I have a brand new 900x900 quadrant shower tray (white) for sale. Slim/low profile. Was no good for me as waste outlet in the wrong place. Still in the packaging. Need it out of the way so will take £35.

As per my previous posts on the subject, Adkins (nor MoN) was not to be the new man. It is dangerous to believe all of what you read in the press. Expect a familiar face to be unveiled.

Jonesuu, you miss the point. I do not give a monkeys about other clubs and how we may or may not compare. Saints youth system is the issue. Very simply the current crop of kids are not as good, imo, as in the past. I Granted OC looks useful but I see no others that will displace a recognized first team player.

That's all lovely BUT what players are (realistically) knocking on the first team door? Infrastructure does not make a football team.

Some people would argue night is day. I have watched Saints for over 30 years and regularly watch our youth, and when we had one, reserve teams. We have no players save Chamberlain knocking on the door. Reeves is a prospect but will be held back by others. Don't get me wrong I want our kids to do well and be the future of the club. Over the years we have developed some very good players (Lallana is fantastic) but over recent years, imo, the standard on the whole has fallen.

WTF does this have to do with the thread? The point is our production line is in decline and there are very few genuine candidates for the first team.

There is a world of difference between an academy that can produce players that can kick a ball in a straight line and produce footballers. Most of our bright young thing in the 80's and 90's graced the top flight. Many now grace the Conference South or the Wessex League after we give up on them. Harsh, but a reality.

Ward- Prowse and Sinclair are still at school! No manager would come here to nurture them into the first team any time soon. The simple point is that we do not have youngsters ready to join the first team that are not already there.

Strangely enough I typed his name in my post below before deleting. The bloke always takes an objective view and would give a much better representation of us than NI.

You have listed about 7 players over about 7 years! Theo and Gareth were exceptional - the others no one has missed and are doing little in the game, save perhaps Dyer who most people would have driven to Swansea. Some of us remember the likes of MLT, the Wallace's, Shearer, and others suppling our first team with a steady flow of players. We are well below that level.

That is a good point. The fans need an appropriate face - preferably one that can string a coherent sentence together.

Our side is not old but I take "young" to be up and coming players to be nurtured. Those are the players we are lacking imo.

Nick has a point. Historically we have had a youth team ready to move up. Over the last few years that has tailed off and at the moment there are no players, save Chambo, knocking on the door. Worrying thing is in the past our young players have been good enough to make an impact in the prem/championship. Now they are not ready for League 1.