egg

Strange, they're only on the ten pound one. Sounds like they can expect a text. What are they replacing the unlimited web with?

Heaven

Much missus and daughter not had the text. They get the goody bag. What package you on?

We were owned by a billionaire and are now (probably) owned by his beneficiaries. This close season's spending will show whether Cortese still has the ability to write cheques as he did. If he can, and does, I think the play offs are realistic. If we keep what we have i think we're midtable.

Being fearful of a possible scenario is not enough. Basically you are right though that what is necessary in the circumstances is the issue. I wouldn't be overly confident of defending the fella in the examples you give though.

Wellies

Sog, your lawyer colleague gives a simplistic explanation. Death in an attack does not mean that the force is excessive, and certainly would not necessarily lead to a murder charge rather than manslaughter. Granted, if you kill someone you are on the backfoot but no means on the way to the gallows. The context and degree of force make a huge difference.

Your home being burgled does not necessarily mean that you are under attack. The law looks at whether force is necessary and then whether the degree of force is reasonable in the circumstances. If you go get a knife and stab a burglar when you are no danger, and ie the bloke is leaving then you are in trouble. If you are in physical danger and reach out to grab the nearest thing to hand to defend yourself (not your home) and use it to fend off an attack you may be ok depending on the degree of force used.. Example, you lash out and that's the end of it then that's probably reasonable. If the guy drops and you keep stabbing cos the guy is scum then you have gone too far.

Nail on head. You don't need to like coldplay, or their music, or Chris Martin to recognise that the performance at Glastonbury was excellent.

They're a disgrace. Many of us in the real world, ie not the public services, have been clinging onto jobs for the last few years and pay cuts have been a reality for many. Anyone with any sense can see that the country could not carry on as it was. Previous pay deals and pension schemes are no longer sustainable. Holding people to ransom is not going to make money available to meet demands.

Hollywood

Much as I find Mlg more irritating than a dose of the clap, he makes a fair point. Still not sure what it has to do with the thread though.

I would love to see Haye win but my head says klitchko will. He's a different fighter to Valuev, more mobile. I reckon the fight has the potential to be a classic though.

Why is it small minded to like a particular band? Music is a personal choice. My mrs likes take that but I think they're crap. She's not small minded for liking them though.

Mohican

Who knows. Depends on the circumstances and the context in which he was using the force. If the fella was coming at him and the only weapon to hand was a knife which he used to fend the guy off then probably not guilty. If he wasn't under attack but then went to get a knife and stabbed the fella anyway then guilty. Anywhere in between then it depends on the situation.

Agreed, staggering performance.

Football

Puss

Of course he could. The point tho is that you stated that the one who isn't had choices. I'm saying that is unknown and you are wrong to make such a statement.

That's a long winded way of saying what I said you said but with you not saying what I said you said. Sorry, I but this talking in riddles is catching.

You don't know that. None of us know what was happening when the guy was killed or in the build up to it. This may have been a frenzied defence to an attack, or he may have chased the bloke and killed him whilst in no danger. If the latter applies he made a choice, and the wrong one at that. If it's the former then it's a different matter.

It's not about being positive or negative. It's about commercial reality.

It's how I understood it. So what did you mean.

Problem is all the common sense has been sucked out of you. Initially you sparked an interesting debate. Since then you've just posted ********.