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That's nonsensical. You're suggesting that supporters of terrorist political parties must be deemed to support their policies, but not the supporters of non terrorist political parties. You can't have it but ways.

Are you seriously suggesting that all people who voted for Hamas support the October 23 acts, and it's other terrorist acts? If you are, that's like saying that all labour voters support the policies they've implemented. You need to understand the difference between a political entity and people.

You're making up terms here. Hamas are a terrorist organisation. It's members, and the supporters who get involved in planning or conducting terrorism, are terrorists. It's supporters (voters as they're a political party) cannot all be assumed to support the terrorist activity - it's nonsense to suggest otherwise.

Hypo seemingly wants to define anyone who supports Hamas as a terrorist. Understanding that there's a distinction between the organisation and the actions/intentions of people shouldn't be hard to comprehend. I'm also at a loss to understand how this thread has got here as well.

You're conflating organisations and individuals. Separate entities. Hamas are a proscribed terrorist organisation. People that support them are not necessarily terrorists. The people who abduct and kill inmo to Israeli people are. Go back to my IRC point. Would any sensible American consider an admin employee of that group as a terrorist? By your logic, they should. By logical logic, nobody would.

Perhaps read the actual words that I posted. That said, if someone was a 'member' of the IRA back in the day, but didn't get involved in terrorist activity in any way, are you saying that person would be a terrorist in your eyes? That's like saying that you're a footballer because you support or are a member of a football club.

One of those games which I wanted both teams to lose. Newcastle deserved it though.

Erwink61 put it perfectly. My take is what a stupid post. As for stats, nobody can assist when the tactics mean that there's nobody ahead of them to assist.

The point is that nobody is bound by another's definition, and that it is does not necessarily follow that a person affiliated with an organisation deemed by some as a terrorist group, is a terrorist. The IRG are a terrorist organisation according to the US government, but not ours. A low level member of that organisation, who does not have any involvement with acts of violence or aggression, or it's planning or facilitation, probably would not be deemed a terrorist by anyone in the US, and certainly shouldn't be over here. The BBC referring to Hamas as a proscribed terrorist group is accurate because it is. Referring to all people associated with it or supporting it as terrorists isn't accurate.

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9 hours ago, hypochondriac said: In what situation are Hamas members not terrorists How about the Iranian Revolutionary Guard's? The US and Canada, amongst others, brand them as terrorists. We don't, which seems sensible to me as they're part of the military of a sovereign nation. By the rationale of this thread, any employee of that group must be terrorist in the eyes of an American.

A reminder of what Reagan said about tariffs. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DG-EK2GN22u/?igsh=bDhybXJ4ZjBvcnFx

It's astounding that he thought other nations would just roll over and have their tummy's tickled. He talks of reciprocal tariffs, but whines when his are met with reciprocation.

Vladimir Putin says fighting must end in Ukraine, but adds a ceasefire should lead to "enduring peace and remove underlying causes of this crisis" Odd that a world leader asks to be taken out.

The only upside of losing money courtesy of this idiots influence, is knowing he's lost an absolute fortune.

"Can you imagine Canada stooping so low as to use ELECTRICITY, that so affects the life of innocent people, as a bargaining chip and threat?" Says Trump. The idiot says nowt when Israel do it to Gaza. Fair play to Canada. Just cut them off, then stop rail access through Canada to Alaska.

I got on solana a few months or so ago...paid 236, it's now 118. Lost half. That'll learn me for choosing a fund named after the hotel in Benidorm.

Absolutely. I've lost a big chunk recently, as have many people. I intend to do absolutely nothing, except invest when the new tax year begins if the market is still on its arse.

That makes me a curry!!

That's all that need to be said. Spot on.

Indeed. A change of diet can transform lives and health. People need to educate themselves on what they're doing to their bodies, and their kids. Sadly people seem to think that their care is somebody else's problem, and that meds are the fix.

Indeed. I had a friend who emigrated to Oz, and within months of coming back was awfully ill. No energy, pain, not sleeping which impacted MH, generally a mess. GP tried to throw anti depressants at him and wouldn't test for vitamin d. He refused the pills, did a private test which showed that his levels were scarily low. He got pumped with vitamin d and was a new man. Many people wouldn't have questioned the doctor, would have taken the pills, and never addressed the actual issue.

Cheers. There's a consistent theme of ultra processed 'food', excess sugar/carbs, insufficient sunlight, under activity (physically and socially) being at the root of poor mental and physical health.

Interesting. Do you have a link to the article please? I suspect reducing carbs (sugar) and adding loads of vitamin D, would bring the numbers down more.

Musk is a vile piece of work. Vile.